Iron Man 3- Discussion

Ice Ixa

Lurker
Waste of $11. It's not a terrible movie, beats the first two (I didn't particularly like either, though so that's not saying much), but even not being a comic fan/purist, Mandarin annoyed me (clever, but no, not for something like this. I'd think a Nolan Batman could pull that off, but not a Marvel), the 3D made it so that action scenes were kind of hard to follow since our eyes couldn't adjust fast enough, and well...it just wasn't overly entertaining.

The one thing I really liked was Tony's PTSD story.

Rhodey...oh Rhodey, if only they'd treat you with more respect and have given you a suit earlier in the final battle. That just really annoyed me. That and destroying the armors; I mean, what happens when the next alien invasion or whatever happens? You could have used all those suits. You can rebuild, but now you're rebuilding from scratch, so you have X number of suits when that happens. You could have had X + 42 (or however many he had).

One thing I still don't get is the Ten Rings. So...was Killian controlling them? We kept hearing that Mandarin controlled them in the press releases and stuff, but that's obviously not true. They weren't even mentioned then, so I'm confused on if that served any point in the final product of the movie. And Killian's final "I am the Mandarin" was stupid. I felt like that was a last ditch line thrown in to try to redeem the Mandarin in the eyes of the fans so it wasn't a complete waste.

One final thing: "Tony Stark will Return"? No. You have not earned what James Bond has earned. You should feel ashamed for putting that in the credits.
 
Man, I hear some people talking about Bane being a "meh" villain and if you asked me not even three days ago I would agree but this Mandarin **** made even the Bane in Batman and Robin look good. Seriously you don't hype people up for the Mandarin and then spring that crap on us. They wasted so much potential for an awesome villain and what really drove me crazy is all this AIM talk and not once did they hint towards MODOK. Come on!
 

Japaneseseriesfan

A simple passerby...
Man, I hear some people talking about Bane being a "meh" villain and if you asked me not even three days ago I would agree but this Mandarin **** made even the Bane in Batman and Robin look good. Seriously you don't hype people up for the Mandarin and then spring that crap on us. They wasted so much potential for an awesome villain and what really drove me crazy is all this AIM talk and not once did they hint towards MODOK. Come on!

Yeah, pretty much this. False advertisement. You gave them an expectation, and all that stuff with [hide]Having Adrian being the founder of AIM... I don't know, I feel like they just made the role bigger than what it was in the comic book just because it was Guy Pearce playing it, and he played it with his typical style of acting seen before in his previous works.[/hide] really bugs me a little. Like, I don't mind and all, but even [hide]Maya's role was... bleh. I mean seriously, now she's dead? What a pointless character, I mean it's mentioned she's responsible for all that but then when it comes to how interesting a character is, she was just bland.[/hide]
 
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scikaiju

Guest
Saw It today, and you know what I enjoyed it. It had a different feel than the two previous movies and in a good way. I was even alright with Mandarin in this. It made sense for this particular universe they set up.
 

Japaneseseriesfan

A simple passerby...
Saw it. Love it. Better than IM2 but not IM1.

I think when they decided to make this whole thing about building up to The Avengers, it may have taken over to focus of most of IM2, which is the only excuse I would accept really. But yeah, despite my complains, it was def better than Part 2. Hated what they did to Whiplash and Crimson Dynamo's character.
 

Drazic

Lurker
[hide] The Mandarin to pull a Joker and go to jail only to break out of it, having pretended to be an actor, and letting Killian "think" he's the Mandarin, then leave it off there for Part 4. Had they done that, I would take away my complaints about Pepper having powers, Rhodey not "programmed" to wear Tony's suits but Pepper could, and Tony removing the reactor and the shrapnels after so long? Oh and the Extremis granting everyone the same ability?[/hide]

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- What's wrong with Pepper getting powers?
- Pepper didn't use Tony's suit. She was just in it while it was being remote controlled by Tony. And that was only possible with that suit. Rhodes wouldn't be able to pilot any of the older suits.
- It was implied he used Extremis to remove the shrapnel.
- Extremis is the same for everyone in the comics as well iirc. Tony's is different because he modified it.

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...That sounds an awful lot dumber than what we got frankly.

[hide]Not really, this is what I was hoping for as well. It's a bit cliche sure but at least it would mean the Mandarin isn't wasted on this. The only thing I disliked about the movie was that I was looking forward to Tony vs. the Mandarin and then it just doesn't happen.[/hide]
 

Skyknight

Lurker
[hide]it was implied he used Extremis to remove the shrapnel
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This was not made clear at all.

Not really

Yes really. It's a stunt pulled off in several movies that arent even within real distance of each other (it happend twice in two 2012 movies). It's redundant and unoriginal. I know fans are desperate to salvage their "ideal vision" of the character, but there can be more creative ways around it than rehashing an existing idea which was always the dumbest thing to swallow in the movies it apperared in (other than maybe the one that did it right in "Dark Knight")
 

Japaneseseriesfan

A simple passerby...
[hide]
- What's wrong with Pepper getting powers?
- Pepper didn't use Tony's suit. She was just in it while it was being remote controlled by Tony. And that was only possible with that suit. Rhodes wouldn't be able to pilot any of the older suits.
- It was implied he used Extremis to remove the shrapnel.
- Extremis is the same for everyone in the comics as well iirc. Tony's is different because he modified it.

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[hide]Pepper getting powers to the point that she could potentially beat the entire team of Avengers in one go of breathing fire all over and having endless regenerating limbs? And then to have Tony remove it "somehow" in the end? C'mon, that's just stupid. She appears to be bitching about Tony being all caught up in his Iron Man work, when she's the one who urged him to save the world in The Avengers. And the other times she appears on screen is being kidnapped, tortured, and somehow miraculously she survives with just enough power to knock out the bad guy... really? Does this sound like Iron Man's the main character or is it 3 minutes of Pott's badassery?

Iron Patriot was able to suit up on someone else, considering it was upgraded and all. I just feel like it not being "coded" for Rhode is stupid, considering the height of the technology, readjustment could possible be made the moment you put it on and it attaches to you. Just had to tell JARVIS what to do, as usual.

Yeah, that wasn't made clear at all. I hated how they referred to the Cocoon he was in as a metaphor only. I wanted to see him pop out of that cocoon with the ability to command the armours, not have those microchips implanted. Btw, if he could have summoned those armours anytime, why not summon it instead of wasting time around with the kid? Jeez... He was such a pointless character. [/hide]
 
I was even alright with Mandarin in this. It made sense for this particular universe they set up.

I might of felt the same if this was IM2 but they make a point in this movie that kinda works against that. Aliens and Gods are falling out of the sky. Nothing can just be explained anymore and that would include a magic man like The Mandarin.

Also want to make clear I thought the movie was great just think they shouldn't of done what they did with the bad guys...also the suits being destroyed...also fixing his heart...but that's it!
 

Aoiblue

Raxbait: Hip
Ooooookaaaaay.........well! I enjoyed the movie a lot! =D

So much fun, and I actually enjoyed the Mandarin, it was a nice twist imo and it worked considering how Killian was setting it up, even to us moviegoers lol.

Who knows, maybe they might actually be another "Mandarin" later on.
 

NMuench

The Decade Everyone Wants Dead
I liked the movie better that 2, not as good as 1. The only thing that bugged me was there was old white guy as president.
 
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Dr Kain

Guest
The movie was so well thought out, so good, that it also becomes a huge disappointment. There are events that occur within the movie that truly build up the suspense, and the outcome is so cleverly executed to the point that it ended up being a big let down as it made the last act of the movie boring because everything is played out so safe. The other issue with the movie is that it plays out just like you would expect from a comic movie. That is not to say it is a bad thing, but it leaves a lot to be desired. There is a lot of great dialog, one liners, and the scene after the credits is great, but the more comic movies we are getting lately are making appreciate Dredd more and more than I did before. IM3 is definitely worth seeing, it isn't as good as the first movie, but it is far superior to the second one. It's just that playing it safe and becoming predictable just made the roller coaster ride fizzle out.
 
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Dr Kain

Guest
Seeing as how both William Saddler and Miguel Ferrer are awesome actors (who have been in many things like Tales from the Crypt), I had no problem with them being in this movie.
 

NoirSon

Another Climax
Only downside I found in this movie (besides the after credits scene) was that there wasn't a really good Iron Man showcase like there was in the first and second films. It seemed to have more action then the first two overall but there was never a nice long scene of him fighting anyone or just using various cool gadgets with the armor.

Other then that, I had no problems with the Mandarin (I was wondering how'd they could even get that to work because I don't think most writers in comics have figured that out let alone some Hollywood guys), the tone or it being a mix mash of various comic related plots. They managed to forge a lot of these elements into a film that stays true to the past films in a lot of way without making it a carbon copy and showing growth.

It is something most Marvel movies had trouble with until this one after the second films until this one.
 

Dark Heart

The Bun Is In Your Mind
I though it was a very awesome movie. I'm not that much of a comics guy, but I thought that Guy Pearce did an awesome job playing the Mandarin, so I don't understand why you guys are so upset. The only part I was disappointed/confused about was the end were he gave up being Iron Man and decimated the Iron Legion. He built all that to prepare for another alien invasion, and he destroys it to have a "clean slate"?

BTW:[HIDE]Gwyneth Paltrow has some bangin' abs:thumbs:[/HIDE]
 
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