Den-O: Why the criticism?

musashi03 said:

Actually, there is really nothing that I don't like in the KR franchise, series-wise. The only thing I didn't like was to center the story too much on the merchandise (*cough* Decade *cough*). Plus I also hated how the treated Hibiki in the 2nd half... :shakefist

Again, Den-O was just a fun series for me, I believe it doesn't really fit the KR Franchise which is supposed to be dark and gloomy, but Toei did this for it to be unique. Plus it is a big sign and reminder that their real target market are kids.

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and to sell merchandise :laugh:

^ Hahaha yeah. I just look at it this way...

a. Those who think Den-O is better than Kuuga and Agito = Retarded.

b. Those who think Den-O was fun and a breath of fresh air = Open-minded.

c. Those who think Den-O was stupid = Reasonable people.

d. None of the above = Lucky bastards.

As the old saying goes; "You can't please everyone..." Good thing Toei pleased the young audiences which was their real intended market, but makes fans like us realize that Toei is another company who just wants to make money, and what better way than to lure children to a show that doesn't require too much brain activity. Yeah Den-O had great concepts (Time-travel, Japanese mytologies, etc.), but the plot wasn't executed properly IMHO.

musashi03 said:

^ Hahaha yeah. I just look at it this way...

a. Those who think Den-O is better than Kuuga and Agito = Retarded.

b. Those who think Den-O was fun and a breath of fresh air = Open-minded.

c. Those who think Den-O was stupid = Reasonable people.

d. None of the above = Lucky bastards.

As the old saying goes; "You can't please everyone..." Good thing Toei pleased the young audiences which was their real intended market, but makes fans like us realize that Toei is another company who just wants to make money, and what better way than to lure children to a show that doesn't require too much brain activity. Yeah Den-O had great concepts (Time-travel, Japanese mytologies, etc.), but the plot wasn't executed properly IMHO.

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i wouldnt call them retarded bro. dont u think thats kind of offensive? were all fans of the KR franchise, we may not agree on things but if anything else, everyone's opinions are heard and respected. that's true fandom :thumbs:

But I fail to comprehend how anybody can say such a thing... :eyebrow:

Though is there anyone here like that? I don't think so, that's why I thought it was ok to call anyone saying that retarded. :laugh:

The only Heisei Rider shows I have serious problems with are Ryuki and Kiva. These are shows where I feel the writing goes a bit beyond "troubled" and into the realm of cynical heartlessness. While Blade wasn't too creative, the show does have a lot of heart and that's worth something to me.

The rest of it... like, Hibki and Den-O I really think would've been better shows had they not been produced under the auspices of the Rider franchise. Otherwise the worst I could say about Faiz and its successors is that most of them would've benefited tremendously from getting Bandai out of the writer's chairt. It was more of a problem in some shows than others.

Faiz frustrates me because it could've been a really great show if only Bandai hadn't crammed it too full of pointless characters and gimmicks for the plot and central characters to really breathe. Bandai was screwing up shows left and right in that same way that year, too.

musashi03 said:

^ Hahaha yeah. I just look at it this way...

a. Those who think Den-O is better than Kuuga and Agito = open minded

b. Those who think Den-O was fun and a breath of fresh air = Resonable

c. Those who think Den-O was stupid = Retarded

d. None of the above = JEWS

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I like all Kamen Riders the same...but I seem to like Den-O more for everything. so I'm retarded, and proud of being retarded...can't tell me otherwise...I finished the series twice...and Kuuga I'm at ep 45, and agito 35.

but I shall fix that anyways just for my sake

Kamen_Sentai said:

I like all Kamen Riders the same...but I seem to like Den-O more for everything. so I'm retarded, and proud of being retarded...can't tell me otherwise...I finished the series twice...and Kuuga I'm at ep 45, and agito 35.

but I shall fix that anyways just for my sake

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Oh, I forgot about you... :sweat:

Anyway, don't edit what you quoted bro. And do you have something against Jews?

musashi03 said:

Oh, I forgot about you... :sweat:

Anyway, don't edit what you quoted bro. And do you have something against Jews?

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nope, just find it funny to add something random. what else can I put...Naggers?

plus, what's the point of hating a show...I love all kamen riders...I loved Kuuga, not done yet...but loving it. same with Agito.

Kamen_Sentai said:

nope, just find it funny to add something random. what else can I put...Naggers?

plus, what's the point of hating a show...I love all kamen riders...I loved Kuuga, not done yet...but loving it. same with Agito.

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Totally up to you.

Saying that you like all Kamen Riders makes you fit option B.

People hate the show because it failed to either keep them entertained or reach their standards. Like I said; "you can't please everybody".

DeMize said:

and to sell merchandise :laugh:

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EXACTLY. That is Toei's idea for selling merchandise for toys. Just need more Satou Takeru's action than Taros.