Kamen Rider OOO - Talk Up!

[TurboCharged]

The 3+ slotted final belt may be an idea.

This video I found yesterday may be a clue...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMMr3ntI56E"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMMr3ntI56E[/ame]

Could somebody help me with the animals. I can only make out Zo and Taka.

 

[KouAidou]

Kiva's subplot of having Wataru trying to abort himself was a masterpiece. Also, who could forget such memorable characters as Kengo, Master, Ramon, the dog and Tatsulot. My favorite part was when Taiga faked us out by not killing his mother or Shima just so his character could be redeemed. Not even Philip dying 3 times in a 50 episode series could compare to any of that.

Next time, we'll have to kill him twenty times.

 

[Skiks]

Kiva's subplot of having Wataru trying to abort himself was a masterpiece. Also, who could forget such memorable characters as Kengo, Master, Ramon, the dog and Tatsulot. My favorite part was when Taiga faked us out by not killing his mother or Shima just so his character could be redeemed. Not even Philip dying 3 times in a 50 episode series could compare to any of that.

I always felt kiva had good ideas just not executed well enough for me to like it all that much.

 

[garfield15]

Kiva's subplot of having Wataru trying to abort himself was a masterpiece. Also, who could forget such memorable characters as Kengo, Master, Ramon, the dog and Tatsulot. My favorite part was when Taiga faked us out by not killing his mother or Shima just so his character could be redeemed. Not even Philip dying 3 times in a 50 episode series could compare to any of that.

(No. Tatsulot was annoying to me. Also, I liked Kivat more)

I felt Kiva had way too much wasted potential to be memorable in my eyes. So many things could have been done or used more (or taken out like time travel) that it bothered me too much to consider it a show I liked at the end.

 

[Reimon]

And you can do it too kids! Get your parents to buy one!

:laugh:, smart.

 

[Black Fang]

Kiva's subplot of having Wataru trying to abort himself was a masterpiece.

It involved ruining a great arc that had been going on since ep. 29 by throwing in a time-travel plot that was frankly inappropriate for a show of this kind. I really think Inoue was trying to go in a different direction but someone at Toei wanted to see a Kiva vs. Kiva fight and team-up.

Also, who could forget such memorable characters as Kengo, Master, Ramon, the dog and Tatsulot.

The dog you're going to count as a real character now?

And what the heck did the others do of real significance, Ramon especially? One could even say Tatsulot's nature was one of the things that contributed to the watering down of Kiva's horror motif.

My favorite part was when Taiga faked us out by not killing his mother or Shima just so his character could be redeemed. Not even Philip dying 3 times in a 50 episode series could compare to any of that.

More like "fake drama" that was. What the hell was the point of pretending to kill his mother? Kiva has this Black-esque feud between Wataru and Taiga, and it seemed to be going to a bittersweet finale, but apparently someone at Toei didn't like the idea of Taiga staying a villain. So Inoue instead concocts this farce so that Taiga can suddenly become a good guy, Dark Kiva and Gold Kiva can exist together (and diminish the whole idea of past and present Kivas), and everyone is one big happy family who fights alien vampires from the future.

A year or so ago I was one of the Kiva fans. Now... I still like a lot of the ideas it had, but the actual show is just such a letdown.

 

[ryatwo]

I'm starting to doubt Eiji will get christened 'Kamen Rider' by the people of his nameless city. We're back to Riders who aren't 'Kamen Rider' and city that are faceless and empty of character.

Agreed, I too doubt that Eiji will be given the title of "Kamen Rider" instead of the title "Multi King". But OOO is the predestined "Multi King" anyway, so maybe by the halfway through the series people will start noticing the deeds that he's done and give him the title of "Kamen Rider". Good thing to note that Eiji has been using the RideVendor nearly every episode now, so "Rider" would still apply. Unless Kobayashi decides to can it halfway through the series.

But Eiji actually recognises himself as a Kamen Rider in A to Z, when he says "Riders should look out for each other." Well not those exact words but somewhere along those lines.

 

[big_j_ny]

It involved ruining a great arc that had been going on since ep. 29 by throwing in a time-travel plot that was frankly inappropriate for a show of this kind. I really think Inoue was trying to go in a different direction but someone at Toei wanted to see a Kiva vs. Kiva fight and team-up.



The dog you're going to count as a real character now?

And what the heck did the others do of real significance, Ramon especially? One could even say Tatsulot's nature was one of the things that contributed to the watering down of Kiva's horror motif.



More like "fake drama" that was. What the hell was the point of pretending to kill his mother? Kiva has this Black-esque feud between Wataru and Taiga, and it seemed to be going to a bittersweet finale, but apparently someone at Toei didn't like the idea of Taiga staying a villain. So Inoue instead concocts this farce so that Taiga can suddenly become a good guy, Dark Kiva and Gold Kiva can exist together (and diminish the whole idea of past and present Kivas), and everyone is one big happy family who fights alien vampires from the future.

A year or so ago I was one of the Kiva fans. Now... I still like a lot of the ideas it had, but the actual show is just such a letdown.

I'm still a Kiva fan to this day. But sadly, Fang is right on the money on all the things that irritated me about Kiva's poorly written plot execution.

The Time Travel wasn't necessary at all nor was the Dark Kiva/Present Kiva team-up at the finale b/c it basically destroyed the whole premise of having a past Kiva that was "a bigger threat than the Fangires," which was a premise first established by both Nago and Shima from the early part of the series.

Wataru's execution of his character growth into a more confident, well-assured man could have worked without the whole Time Travel arc they tried to pull off. But ultimately, having Dark Kiva appear in the present time annoyed the living hell out of it b/c it killed that entire "Kiva is the Greatest Evil" concept that the show tried to establish from the very beginning.

To this day, I felt the finale arc of Kiva was the most rushed P.O.S. I've ever seen in my life..........especially when I first saw this series for the first time. It was rushed b/c they primarily left so many plotholes open and destroyed the continuity of so many things that the series established early on.

 

[urugoji]

Also, who could forget such memorable characters as Kengo, Master, Ramon, the dog and Tatsulot.

Uh, don't take this the wrong way, but is this part sarcastic? IMO, all five of these characters are pretty much the most flat and/or useless characters from the show. Really, I can't imagine the dog as a memorable character LOL

 

[Undrave]

The 3+ slotted final belt may be an idea.

This video I found yesterday may be a clue...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMMr3ntI56E

Could somebody help me with the animals. I can only make out Zo and Taka.

I think those are sound from the capsule toy medals... I could swear I heard it say 'PURECUREA!' i.e. "PreCure" o.o

Pretty Cure medal?!