Worst Heisei KR series

Kiva. Hands down.

Utterly unlikeable cast, completely incomprehensible story that contradicts itself multiple times over, and ripping off as much of Den-O as possible while trying to pretend its not.

And that movie... oh GOD, that movie. I have never seen someone get so enraged at a Heisei Rider movie that they mooned the TV screen showing it until I showed some friends the Kiva movie.
 
Kiva. Hands down.

Utterly unlikeable cast, completely incomprehensible story that contradicts itself multiple times over, and ripping off as much of Den-O as possible while trying to pretend its not.

And that movie... oh GOD, that movie. I have never seen someone get so enraged at a Heisei Rider movie that they mooned the TV screen showing it until I showed some friends the Kiva movie.

Wow. I think I had blocked out Kiva so hard that it never entered my thoughts when I made my initial post. Kiva is just a friggin mess which is sad because the idea of doing a vampire themed Kamen Rider could have actually been cool.
 
Wow, it's interesting how almost all of the votes are for the most recents series. I didn't realize how discontent most KR fans are with new ****. I know Decade wasn't well recieved, but I didn't think Den-O was all that bad. The comedy approach worked for me I guess. Kiva was by far my least favorite series though. None of it worked as a Kamen Rider series, to me. :170:
 
After a bit of thought on this I went with Blade.*

All of the other Rider shows I feel were laudable either for doing something original with the show's production or coming up with a novel KR premise or design. A lot of the shows that don't so much work as Rider shows (Hibiki, Den-O) still weren't bad tokusatsu ideas at all. Actually, they were kind of brilliant, if executed unevenly.

Blade was a case of a syndrome I like to call All The Popular Elements. At the time Blade was made, Rider had been so many different thing that the fandom was getting fractious. Toei made the enormous mistake of trying to make a show that would somehow please all Rider fans by containing everything anyone had liked in Rider to date.

They wanted to please the Showa fans by giving them a purely superheroic character again in Kenzaki. They wanted to please Kuuga fans by having a mysterious plot with a big twist at the end. They wanted to please Agito fans by playing up the conflict between Blade and Garren against a procedural backdrop. They wanted to please the Ryuki fans by having morally ambiguous Riders and a card-based power system. They wanted to please the Faiz fans by telling a story driven by interpersonal conflict, complete with a sympathetic monster character or two (eventually).

Whenever you make a show in a fashion this calculated and formulaic, it ends up not working. It doesn't work because it's not really about anything-- you work in all the formula beats, suddenly there's no room for developed themes beyond what's been borrowed. There's nothing surprising or original your idea can suggest, because your entire point was to make something containing no originality whatsoever.

What I've observed over the years is that the shows that usually turn into big successes (or at least spectacular failures) are ones that are somehow personal to the creators. Because they're personal, there's a sense of the crew working extra-hard to make something good, something lasting. Because they're personal, these shows often end up reflecting the unique style and personality of the individuals who created it.

I never felt any sense of purpose in Blade, and while I did watch it a long time ago (and so mix up some bits of the plot) I watched more of it than I care to think about in retrospect. Blade to me felt like the year Toei took off while they trying to find creators with some big ideas they could use next time. This feeling was confirmed when I saw Hibiki announced....

* I'm sorry, Blade Dancer! We're still cool! I figure you defend the show here so often and so well, it can take a few lumps from me.

I agree with this, all of this.
 
Kuuga by far is the worst. It sucked. I still am having trouble watching it, only on episode 8 or 9 I think. So yeah. Kuuga gets my vote.
 
I liked Kuuga because of it's theme song. Other than that, I'm indifferent on it. But the opposite is true of Kiva, because I wasn't indifferent, I hated it! You still gotta show love for that theme song though, Matrix :laugh:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6oPA_JXoY[/ame]

Is was one of the last great Pop-Metal toku ballads. That era was Masayuki Tanaka's time too. He'd just done Ultraman Gaia's theme in '99, then Kuuga in 2000!
 
Wow. I think I had blocked out Kiva so hard that it never entered my thoughts when I made my initial post. Kiva is just a friggin mess which is sad because the idea of doing a vampire themed Kamen Rider could have actually been cool.

i can agree with you there. Great concepts but not presented well. However there is only one thing that KIva brought me...IXA!!!!!!!!!!
 
Is that you, Joe Odagiri?

Worse, its a Code Geass fan. :P j/k

All these Kiva haters. Its not really SURPRISING (Double's the first thing I've seen received so well while new), but it is somewhat disheartening. I enjoyed Kiva. Not like I enjoyed Kuuga, Blade, or Agito. Not even like I'm enjoying W. But I enjoyed it quite a bit.
 
Kuuga by far is the worst. It sucked. I still am having trouble watching it, only on episode 8 or 9 I think. So yeah. Kuuga gets my vote.

Well you're entitled to your opinion but jeezus man I really just do not see how. I can see how maybe Kuuga would not be someone's cup of tea but worst? Really? Out of all the Heisei shows? Why? Because there's not a bunch of secondary Riders hitting each other in gaudy power-up modes every five minutes?

Is that you, Joe Odagiri?

Mother of ****, not this again.
 

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