Kamen Rider Decade - Talk UP!

[555]

Why did Tenki and Todoroki taste the snaking deathbreak?

Come, come... I teach you to say it right~ =D

First, you gotta look feral and angry.

Then, position your hands as if you wanna grab Akira's boobs, cross your hands at chest level, and repeat after me - "Aaaaaaaaa.... Maaaaaaaa.... KIIIIIIIIII~!!!"

Remember to sound like a thirsty animal and wear nothing but a loincloth, a belt and an armlet.

It can never go wrong

 

[garfield15]

So, I saw the RAW and still don't get it. Why are the Blade no Sekai Riders fighting the Kiva Riders? .

Two Riders are not allowed to exist on the same world. Thus Kiva and Blade are fighting to keep their respective ones since the worlds are colliding

Did showing Kazama who Kiva was change anything?

First, Kazuma knew who Kiva was already. They transformed right in front of each other and second, no it didn't. That's just how serious this battle is. Though a rousing speech from Tsukasa did mellow Kazuma out a bit.

Why did Tenki and Todoroki taste the snaking deathbreak?

(It's Amaki. Tenki was a mistake)

Anyway, they died because, like I just said, this is a battle between the worlds to keep their own. Hibiki's world just got involved

And how is Apollo Geist able to crash the worlds together?

Because he's awesome like that (Also, Dai Shocker started the whole world colliding thing in the first place of course he can control it)

 

[FreedomR8G6B1]

Because he's awesome like that (Also, Dai Shocker started the whole world colliding thing in the first place of course he can control it)

I wonder if Steve can adapt someone like Geist.:buttrock:

 

[Lynxara]

Two Riders are not allowed to exist on the same world.

Ha ha, what? That hasn't been true in Rider for at least ten years now.

 

[garfield15]

Ha ha, what? That hasn't been true in Rider for at least ten years now.

Oh you know what I meant. Two Riders from different series can't exist in the same world.

 

[Lynxara]

Oh you know what I meant. Two Riders from different series can't exist in the same world.

I was seriously hoping this wasn't, in fact, what you were getting at. This is if anything goofier than the idea that more than one Rider on a given world is a bad thing.

(I mean, at least Heisei has a long tradition of guys in multiple Rider shows being willing to fight each other at the drop of a hat, regardless of consequences.)

 

[Reimon]

Wow, most of the dark Riders are gone, barely see them at the Rider War.

 

[555]

This is just like in Gundam. All gundams from RX-78 to F91, coexist in the same world. Just like the old gen Riders.

But, came a series of alternate reality Gundams like G Gundam, Wing Gundam etc, which has no connections or whateoever with one another, no matter the storyline, the cultures etc. These are like the new-gen Riders.

You cannot bring together 2 seperate populations together. It would upset the balance.

As in, Earth-1 (sorry, DC comics) has xxx humans and Earth-2 has the same number of humans. If brought together, then it's double the population, when put together. And what about buildings that were of different worlds yet on the same location?

This is why Crisis of Infinite Earths happened.

It is to eradicate anomalies and end confusion.

But of course, in Decade's storyline, it's more unique, as in, even the old-gen riders were thrown into seperate worlds. So, it's not surprising that Black will have to battle Amazon for the sake of their own worlds and the people they love.

They are not doing this willingly. But they have to. The rule's a bitch. Even if there's a better way, like assimilation, it's still no different from being eradication, because you're a new life form, with no prior memories. Imagine a Wataru-Kazuma hybrid.

Would you yourself allow such a thing happen to you? Of course you'd fight to stay alive.

 

[Lynxara]

This is just like in Gundam. All gundams from RX-78 to F91, coexist in the same world. Just like the old gen Riders.

But, came a series of alternate reality Gundams like G Gundam, Wing Gundam etc, which has no connections or whateoever with one another, no matter the storyline, the cultures etc. These are like the new-gen Riders.

You cannot bring together 2 seperate populations together. It would upset the balance.

Except that Turn-A Gundam establishes that all Gundam series actually take place in a single timeline, separated by hundreds of thousands (or sometimes millions) of years. Even post-Turn-A series like Gundam SEED and Gundam 00 were retconned into being a part of Gundam's overarching "Dark History" timeline.

There's no rules for how multiple timelines or dimensions "should" work, just whatever a story in question has chosen to establish. You can't make any reasonable assumptions about what should happen in Decade based on Gundam or DC Comics or any other storyline that isn't Decade's own.

As far a that goes, Decade has been incredibly inconsistent regarding how its multiple worlds work. The impression I got is that the writers are really just making it up as they go along. So multiple Riders can't co-exist in Decade 30 all-of-a-sudden because they need a good excuse for Wataru and Kazuma to fight.

If they wanted them not to fight, then they would've made up a different rule. There's nothing wrong with that sort of writing, it gives Decade a fun feeling of spontaneity, but it also means that the plotlines pretty much can't be analyzed meaningfully. They don't really mean anything deep because they were never intended as more than setpieces.

 

[Forever Knight]

*jaw + floor = my reply*