Kamen Rider Decade - Talk UP!

[garfield15]

Clearly what he wanted to say was "Don't leave me Tsukasa. I love you."

 

[drieg500]

Clearly what he wanted to say was "Don't leave me Tsukasa. I love you."

By the gods...



:castlerock:



:HG: FOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Reimon]

Clearly what he wanted to say was "Don't leave me Tsukasa. I love you."

:laugh:, Natsumi won't even say it.

 

[Nana]

The episode also would've felt more complete, which might have left fewer people feeling actively pissed off.

What she said, the final battle felt extra rushed just to add all of the stuff at the end. We could have done with out all of the jibber jabber in the middle and save the King Form ass whooping for the end. And about the Kaijin battle, yeah revived versions are supposed to be weaker but come the hell on!! It was like knocking over dominoes!

 

[MattComix]

I didn't appreciate the lack of action in the final fight and the talking in the final episode. I felt cheated. I would have been more pleased if the Grongi won.

Oh come on. I would have liked more action to but I see the point that they were making and it was a damn good one that fit the themes the story had been trying to express since day one. The Grongi winning, seriously? What kind of grimdark bullshit would that have been.

I ask myself if these shows are so horrible to you then why do you even both continue watching them man?. You sound like a watered down version of that other guy... who's a member here. I forgot what her name was.

Consider for just a moment that the whole, "if you don't like them why do you watch them" thing is a weak and to some degree insulting arguement.

I just want you to think about it for a second. Of course he likes this stuff and watches it but you can like something and still be critical of it or look at it's flaws and feel that they have hurt the greater whole. Liking something doesn't mean you just blindly accept whatever comes down the pike or whatever shiny new alt. form toy they stick in your face or whatever "badass" they trott out or how many explosions happen.

If anything, a profound love of the stuff is part of why some fans can be hard on a show because they know how much potential for awesome in both action and storytelling that the whole thing has and if a show starts with a interesting idea and/or characters it can be a frustrating experience to see it not live up to that potential when there is really no good reason for it not to be able to.

..and really, a clear, conclusive, and satisfying ending is not too much for any audience member of any age or nationality to ask from any story, be it Kamen Rider or whatever.

 

[Nana]

If anything, a profound love of the stuff is part of why some fans can be hard on a show because they now how much potential for awesome in both action and storytelling that the whole thing has and if a show starts with a interesting idea and/or characters it can be a frustrating experience to see it not live up to that potential when there is really no good reason for it not to be able to.

That was probably what let me down hardest with this show. The first 3 episodes were amazing. People made jokes about how all of the budget and quality was spent there but looking back on it, it's not too far from the truth. How the producers made Kuuga's world as faithful to the original while still having its own quirks just stood out to me. And the final battle was a lot more satisfying than the one in the last episode. It just makes it even more disappointing when we got worlds like 555's. The similarities were superficial at best. They share the same name and monster form but that's about it. Everything else was just... random.

I dunno, those are just my thoughts on this show. Maybe I'm just missing something.

 

[Lynxara]

It just makes it even more disappointing when we got worlds like 555's.

You could really tell during Decade which shows the writers enjoyed using and which shows they just kinda slogged through because the format demanded it.

Given that Decade's staff included guys who actually worked on most of the originals... well, in retrospect, it tends to explain a lot of what went wrong with those particular shows.

It's the fan's dilemma: no matter how much we care about this stuff, we can never make the production teams care as much as we do.

 

[MattComix]

That was probably what let me down hardest with this show. The first 3 episodes were amazing. People made jokes about how all of the budget and quality was spent there but looking back on it, it's not too far from the truth. How the producers made Kuuga's world as faithful to the original while still having its own quirks just stood out to me. And the final battle was a lot more satisfying than the one in the last episode. It just makes it even more disappointing when we got worlds like 555's. The similarities were superficial at best. They share the same name and monster form but that's about it. Everything else was just... random.

I dunno, those are just my thoughts on this show. Maybe I'm just missing something.

I'm not so sure you are. I feel pretty much the same.

As a fan of Kuuga I was impressed with the first episodes which is really saying something because the combination of Godai being replaced and watching the pitiful sight of Kuuga getting folded up into a gimmick as blatant and stupid as the Final Form Rides are would have been enough make me put my foot through the screen. But they actually made a fairly convincing case for the Alts with that and I got interested in seeing where it all went.

 

[Igadevil]

When I watched through the series again a few days ago, I did find that the first three episodes really stuck out as some of my favorites. I attribute a lot to the direction- Tasaki did the Nega World episodes, and while those weren't my favorite, they still looked pretty great. But there's a lot I like about those three- you could almost cut them together into a movie like they did with the first two Kuuga episodes.

Though I still want to know who was shooting at Kuuga-Gouram!

 

[NoirSon]

You could really tell during Decade which shows the writers enjoyed using and which shows they just kinda slogged through because the format demanded it.

Given that Decade's staff included guys who actually worked on most of the originals... well, in retrospect, it tends to explain a lot of what went wrong with those particular shows.

It's the fan's dilemma: no matter how much we care about this stuff, we can never make the production teams care as much as we do.

Pretty much, the only worlds/arcs I can honestly say they didn't even try to capture at least one of a show's themes were Blade's World and to a lesser extents Amazon (where they were just lazy and should have used Great Emperor Zero, instead of that shitty Ten Faced Demon) and Ryuuki.

The rest at least tried to have fun with some of the concepts of the original series by re-imaging them, those particular ones felt more like their world's riders had no personalities and came off weak in all categories. Maybe they were deemed as such to give room for Tsukasa and his folk to develop but when it comes down to it, those are ones I have no problem skipping over (although Ryuuki did have a pretty nice fight scene at the end if I remember right).