Kamen Rider Blade - Talk Up!

I think the idea behind Kenzaki for most of the first half is that they took the "goody-goody heroes aren't interesting" approach, but subverted it by also building towards the later, darker storyline of Kenzaki.

He starts out as just the nice guy who lost his parents and signed on to do some good. In the first half he's like the beacon of sanity in a world gone mad. The only people he can trust can't do much more than set him off in the right direction. His workplace is trashed, his boss is missing. Tachibana's jumping around from being shifty, mind-controlled or seriously contemplating a career change. There's that whole "Hulking out" thing they worry about early on, which seems like it's the result of someone thinking that people dying from turning into Kaixa was the coolest idea Rider's ever had, ever.

Hajime's pretty hard to read too. Amane gives him grounding so he's not quite a "villain", but early on I was sure he'd not survive the end of the show. Which is maybe why Missing Ace feels like the ending to the show at the time it was made (pre-30-something-ish), rather than when it's meant to be set. For the first half, Hajime's a sympathetic anti-hero, but I could see him being the one who makes the sacrifice in the end to save the show's namesake. That's just how I thought at the time though. Agito wouldn't have ended with Shouchi taking the headbutt so Kino could open up a private clinic.

While by the end, Hajime becomes the only one Kenzaki can really rely on should things get that bad, and vice-versa. They're practically brothers. The final battle is a no-win situation. If Kenzaki seals him, Hajime's gone and we get a nightmarish world of a Missing Ace Riders and Orphenoch cameos up the wazoo (though the ultimate ending is a happy enough one.) If Kenzaki throws it, well, we see what happened. And while I love both endings, I gotta say that as Kenzaki fan, that TV one hurts. It's arguably triumphant for Kenzaki though, in a twisted way. He loses out, but he saved someone else, and that's really all he ever wants.

I like to cite that big rumble in episode #7/8 where we get our first glimpse that Kenzaki's got more under his skin than we're originally meant to think. But for a lot of the first half, yeah, he's mostly Mr. Hero since everybody else around him is constantly going back and forth on the good/bad scale. It reminds me of Ryuki, in a way. At first glance, Shinji is probably the least-interesting of the Riders. He doesn't have a comatose girlfriend, isn't dying, isn't out for revenge or has some loopy grand scheme.

To the others, he's a naive fool who just doesn't get how the real world is (which they really stress in the TV Special with Verde and his dog-eat-dog philosophy.) But in truth he's more badass than anybody, because as idealistic as his goals are, he's also the one who's ultimately right, and most of the time, he sticks to his guns. I like some of the others more on a design/powers basis, but Ryuki's easily my favorite character-wise from the show.

I do agree that in the end, Blade's as much about Hajime as Kenzaki, if not more. Again like in Ryuki, where it really starts to focus on the importance of Yui. Shinji and Ren are the main men, but everything hinges on Yui. In Blade, it's Hajime that's on everybody's minds, especially later on. Like I said, the final battle is a no-win situation for the characters, and presumably the audience. By that point, we're invested in both of these guys' fates, and as cool as it is to see them kicking each other's asses across the woods, we don't want either one to lose, because they both deserve happiness.

But it's still very much about Kenzaki. It's about his fall, actually. The series takes the most heroic and dependable of the four Riders and puts him through the gauntlet, drags him down, ultimately "killing" him a way, though you can also read it as his ultimate victory. He saves Hajime at the price of his own humanity, spitting in the face of fate and giving life to someone who deserves it. But he's Kenzaki, so he would do that, wouldn't he?

(If you say "No!", you're in luck, that's why there's the movie!)
 
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Rewatching Blade's first episodes right now, Kenzaki initially wasn't nearly as heroic as I remembered. He was clearly a good guy, but hesitated and whined frequently. While some of that is understandable, he's hanging around a girl in the same situation that (initially) doesn't complain nearly as much.

Of course, as soon as she starts thinking about her father, their roles are pretty much reversed, with Kenzaki becoming the reliable hero he's known for and that Board girl complaining and hesitating.

In a related note, those first episodes have a few things that aren't really followed up later on, especially related to Chalice. He freaks out when he hears the word "Kamen Rider" for the first time and Isaka, an Undead, mentions Chalice's "suit" - that makes much more sense design-wise, although it's obviously not how the story turned out. I wonder how the series would have ended if they actually had followed the initial set up...

About those "captured Kenzaki" episodes... I'm always annoyed when Riders refuse to use their powers against armed humans. There's no way Kenzaki should have been captured back then.
 
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I also love Blade because it gave us this.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9pSvuE9S1E[/ame]

This is my favorite battle ED ever. Even more than Supernova or Believe yourself. Maybe becase it's just so damn intense.
 
Man, i saw this thread i think a day ago when it had 1 page, and i thought i should watch the TV nihon subs, since i did the HK crappy subs previously.

Anyway, I thought Tachibana was cool. He's the most normal of them all, i mean given a belt it's not that hard to assume that belt would cause u some harm. Plus, his girlfriend died. How dark is that? awesome.

I thought he should have just stayed dead at the end, would have make his sacrifice more meaningful, man that cracked helmet thing was an emotional scene.

Meh, chalice reminds me of Wolverine, reluctant hero who kinda goes berserk at times. Personally, i don't like Wolverine. And no, it's not 'cause he's Canadian.
 
Tachibana, he's kinda cool. He's not to say normal, just humane and not cut out for what he does I think? Kenzaki as his junior does a better job than him most of the time, and he's also easily led astray as mentioned. Mutsuki is probably the most normal guy there. He's an average joe who's arrogant, nothing strange there. I love how Tachibana tried to set Mutsuki straight but ultimately fails though.
 
WoW! Aw great, more interesting threads to discuss and discuss and discuss some moar!

Ahem... *sigh* My goodness, this thread just invites me to rewatch Blade and enjoy it's magnificent story. In terms of characterization, this show is one of the most intriguing of them all with Kuuga, Agito and W (not yet finished). Basically in Heisei KR, we have here guys who turn into Kamen Riders to defend society from the kaijins and their plans. Now one of the biggest shocks in my viewing is this. Chalice Aikawa is an undead. :O_O: Man! I thought he was a human in the first place until the time came when he revealed that he was the Black Joker himself. Man! Like come on, look... This is one of those poor executions and stuffs that riddled me about how did one point came this and that. Like, they could've let the show go with Hajime Aikawa as a different character for he IS a Kamen Rider after all and should not be a danger to society by human and kaijin measures.

Now as for the other Kamen Riders present in this show, I really admired Kenzaki a lot. He had the heart of love to all of his friends and not letting any of them suffer including Kamijyo Mutsuki who was possesed by the Spider Undead. I think this had one of those cool upgrades and to be honest, THIS is the 1st time that the main titular Kamen Rider is in blue, that's right, BLUE! This is one show that reminded me of Kamen Rider Ryuki in a way about the Battle Royale system in the form of Kaijin VS Kaijin as what the flashbacks states. In all of the Heisei Kamen Riders out there, Blade is one of those super epic Kamen Riders ever made.

EDIT: And speaking about subs, SCREW HK SUBS >:(
 
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I think the idea behind Kenzaki for most of the first half is that they took the "goody-goody heroes aren't interesting" approach, but subverted it by also building towards the later, darker storyline of Kenzaki.

He starts out as just the nice guy who lost his parents and signed on to do some good. In the first half he's like the beacon of sanity in a world gone mad. The only people he can trust can't do much more than set him off in the right direction. His workplace is trashed, his boss is missing. Tachibana's jumping around from being shifty, mind-controlled or seriously contemplating a career change. There's that whole "Hulking out" thing they worry about early on, which seems like it's the result of someone thinking that people dying from turning into Kaixa was the coolest idea Rider's ever had, ever.

Hajime's pretty hard to read too. Amane gives him grounding so he's not quite a "villain", but early on I was sure he'd not survive the end of the show. Which is maybe why Missing Ace feels like the ending to the show at the time it was made (pre-30-something-ish), rather than when it's meant to be set. For the first half, Hajime's a sympathetic anti-hero, but I could see him being the one who makes the sacrifice in the end to save the show's namesake. That's just how I thought at the time though. Agito wouldn't have ended with Shouchi taking the headbutt so Kino could open up a private clinic.

While by the end, Hajime becomes the only one Kenzaki can really rely on should things get that bad, and vice-versa. They're practically brothers. The final battle is a no-win situation. If Kenzaki seals him, Hajime's gone and we get a nightmarish world of a Missing Ace Riders and Orphenoch cameos up the wazoo (though the ultimate ending is a happy enough one.) If Kenzaki throws it, well, we see what happened. And while I love both endings, I gotta say that as Kenzaki fan, that TV one hurts. It's arguably triumphant for Kenzaki though, in a twisted way. He loses out, but he saved someone else, and that's really all he ever wants.

I like to cite that big rumble in episode #7/8 where we get our first glimpse that Kenzaki's got more under his skin than we're originally meant to think. But for a lot of the first half, yeah, he's mostly Mr. Hero since everybody else around him is constantly going back and forth on the good/bad scale. It reminds me of Ryuki, in a way. At first glance, Shinji is probably the least-interesting of the Riders. He doesn't have a comatose girlfriend, isn't dying, isn't out for revenge or has some loopy grand scheme.

To the others, he's a naive fool who just doesn't get how the real world is (which they really stress in the TV Special with Verde and his dog-eat-dog philosophy.) But in truth he's more badass than anybody, because as idealistic as his goals are, he's also the one who's ultimately right, and most of the time, he sticks to his guns. I like some of the others more on a design/powers basis, but Ryuki's easily my favorite character-wise from the show.

I do agree that in the end, Blade's as much about Hajime as Kenzaki, if not more. Again like in Ryuki, where it really starts to focus on the importance of Yui. Shinji and Ren are the main men, but everything hinges on Yui. In Blade, it's Hajime that's on everybody's minds, especially later on. Like I said, the final battle is a no-win situation for the characters, and presumably the audience. By that point, we're invested in both of these guys' fates, and as cool as it is to see them kicking each other's asses across the woods, we don't want either one to lose, because they both deserve happiness.

But it's still very much about Kenzaki. It's about his fall, actually. The series takes the most heroic and dependable of the four Riders and puts him through the gauntlet, drags him down, ultimately "killing" him a way, though you can also read it as his ultimate victory. He saves Hajime at the price of his own humanity, spitting in the face of fate and giving life to someone who deserves it. But he's Kenzaki, so he would do that, wouldn't he?

(If you say "No!", you're in luck, that's why there's the movie!)

I love it when you come around saying the wise things you always do :D

I like philosophy so much that it's what I try to find in every series. Blade's the series that I found a lot out of, with the whole "Sacrificing one self for the good of the world" and the whole "Fight Fate" thing.

It's epic **** and it's intense and good drama. And as you said, Hajime and Kenzaki are practically brothers yeah? Kenzaki's was a boy who's lost his family so meeting and befriending Hajime and their relationship must be extremely important for him to let Hajime live because as you said, he deserves it.

The one thing I kinda thought they should have focused on was the relationship between Mutsuki and Hajime as well as the Kenzaki/Tachibana/Hajime thing.

In my opinion, Mutsuki in the ending episodes should have kinda relate to Hajime and kind of apologize to him on how he once wanted his Joker power for himself. Kinda like a forgive and forget thing. I know it's understandable that they did that too, but I guess I just wanted them to show it on screen.

The first three Riders have separate relationships, if you know what I mean.

There's Tachibana/Kenzaki which is the Senior/Junior thing. Then there's the Kenzaki/Hajime, the kinda brothers thing. Tachibana/Hajime was a tough relationship because during the ending Tachibana decides to seal Hajime, but then stops because Mutsuki believes in Kenzaki's words. I guess they should have built a little more conflict between them though. But what we've never really saw was a moment between Tachibana/Kenzaki/Hajime where the three would kinda go off as friends, and not the whole "Tachibana's still trying to seal Hajime and Kenzaki breaks it up" kinda thing.
 
^This is where Blade's crowning moments of epicness comes when the conflicts between the Riders and some side characters clash with one another for it escalates the drama to a higher interest than the usual.

We all saw how the characters develop one after the other and thus making this show a better show regarding it's own nature but then there has to be a necessary conflict in the show that makes it good. Like how Kenzaki promotes friendship within every Riders and how Hajime wants to help the family of Amane no matter how difficult for him to help humans despite being the mightiest Undead of them all.
 

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