HJU: A World We Have Forgotten

[ClimaxHeroDen-O]

The best way to limit DiEnd is to make his Summons no better than Mooks with big guns they hit hard but can't take a hit.

Well, it already seems like the KR canon established an unspoken 3-rider summon limit when using KamenRide cards, and the best way to keep the rider summons controlled is to basically take cues from the canon to how they fought most of the time, excluding strange cases like the IXA+Psyga double-summon

 

[KaenBurakku]

I'm mainly keeping it at 2 stronger Riders (say...Gills and Ouja) maximum, and 3 weaker Rider maximum (Drake, Delta, and Lance, for example. lol). and 1 main Rider at a time, and only 1 per fight. c:

 

[Kalle]

derp derp i r dum. just so I know, that is Kivat-bat II on the ZeroLiner now, right? n__n;; I backread the whole thread and I just wanted to make sure I didn't get anything mixed up before I post my Kivat's reaction. lolstoptalkingkalle

 

[Tigerhawk21]

I thought everyone (-Will/Shade) was on the ZeroLiner.... since Shade said they'd follow in Doran.

So yes... Kivat the II is on the ZeroLiner.

 

[Dark Kabuto]

Will is on the Linear, Shade and the other servants are following in Doran. :thumbs:

 

[Kalle]

okay xD it's just that his response kinda threw me for a loop and I was like 'nooo, how do you not recognize your son?' lol.

 

[ClimaxHeroDen-O]

Unless this Kivat-Bat II is from a Kiva World where he never had a son, this is rather off-canon, and confused me as well. Then again, since Kivat-Bat II was originally intended to be inherited solely by the Fangire Royal Bloodline, it might make sense that this isn't the same Kivat II that was in the Kiva series

Either that, or he has amnesia

 

[Tigerhawk21]

It's a non-canon Kivat the II. He's the only survivor of the Kivat Race in his world. Kiva and in turn Kivat the III died in a brutal war/uprising.

 

[Kalle]

Okay, that makes sense. So Kivat III doesn't realize it's not his father then.

 

[Tigerhawk21]

Right. Let me try to explain a bit.

Kivat the III thinks (understandably) that Kurovat is his father. Kurovat on the other hand, knows full well who the golden Kivat is... but is conflicted as to how to respond.

Kurovat and Dark Kiva were both present when Kivat III and Kiva died from their injuries. Kurovat greatly misses his son and is plagued by the thought that he could have saved him (he couldn't btw. but grief is talking).

A large part of him wants to accept the fact that this is really Kivat III (his dead son) but he's hesitant for fear of a repeat of the past. He's greatly conflicted due also to Aliah's memory loss.

Aliah took Kiva's death incredibly hard, to the point that revenge nearly became an obsession to the King. Kurovat is greatly torn by the sudden turn of events.

In time, Kurovat may speak to Kivat III about it but for now he'll just act like 'We're meeting for the first time. Why are you calling me father?'