What are your expections for Kamen Rider OOO?

[garfield15]

Actually it started with Kiva Flight Style, But I wouldn't be surprised if they do use it.

I guess so, but Kiva was more of a normal transformation. Not a "oh look kids, here's a toku character and we're going to show you how to transform it."

The post-Decade ones looked more "blocky" in a word.

What Angst?

Ryuu mainly and his vendetta. Whenever it came to Isaka, I feel that in the hands of the normal writers, Ryuu would be constantly aggro (is that the word for it?) on ShouPhil and antagonizing them for getting in his way. Everything about Ryuu would normally scream out "douche." Many even were speculating that he would ruin the show because he would only exist to fight W all the time (I kinda felt this way at first too but that was only because of past experience).

Also, Shou's depressive period in the movie over Soukichi telling him to stop being a detective as well as Philip's constant BSOD's when it comes to the slow reveals of his family. Philip's story seems that it would cause the most angst. He's even angsting now...or was anyway. The previous arc was about Akiko trying to get Philip over his angst for Wakana. Luckily she succeeded.

 

[Lynxara]

There's a pretty key difference between the way the Inoue shows and W approach angst. The Inoue shows would really wallow in angst, presenting the emotion as noble and compelling and fundamentally interesting.

W presents angst as a problem someone has to overcome. For Ryu, giving into his angst would make an unforgivable murderer. For Shotaro, it would be giving in to weakness and losing faith in the example Soukichi set for him.

This is a very fundamental shift in point-of-view that results in Ryu eventually leaving his trauma behind and Shotaro eventually fighting back against the fake Skull. Inoue protagonists tend to be forever and irrevocably transformed by their emotional trauma, so a behavior driven by angst is one that character will always incline toward.

Since W has refused to let anyone become permanently angst, the show has had basically no substantial Rider vs. Rider element comparable to what you saw in Faiz or the non-Inoue but similar Blade. That stuff has its fans and I'm sure they've complained about it to Toei in Japan.

 

[Quark]

Lots of ghosts. No one made that joke yet, right?

 

[kyoot]

Hino Eiji has no dreams, no job, no family. He always says, "I don't want anything, and I don't attach to much importance to anything." He is then confronted by a mystery man, and gives him the OOO belt and three medals that can enable him to become the predestined Multi King: Kamen Rider OOO . Assisted by a mysterious organization with ulterior motives, the main character starts to realize what it means "to be alive."

[quoted from Jefusion]
It sounds just like Faiz... coincidence?

 

[Kamen Rider Rage]

its a pretty good background story for ooo's :thumbs::thumbs:

 

[big_j_ny]

[quoted from Jefusion]
It sounds just like Faiz... coincidence?

Based on the info, they basically mixed together characteristics of Ryotaro of Den-O with Takumi of Faiz. That's gonna be a really horrible combination

 

[FreedomR8G6B1]

OOO the Multi King...err...you get this weird impression that OOOs Final Form will be "Ou/Oh/Oo" Form.:sweat:

Blade had it, Kiva too.

"Multi King"...what next the Kingranger Emblem from Ohranger.:sly:

Oh...Oh...Oh...:O_O::shakefist



PS: I really hope the secondary rider isn't named "Wars":redface2::sly:

 

[wavehawk]

I don't know about you guys, but I still haven't gotten over the way the costume looks.

I mean, when Decade turned up, I complained for a week or two then just let it go (and actually felt better seeing it in action). Can't say there are Heisei Rider "basic" forms that I've disliked save for Decade (I tend to complain more of their powered-up forms). But I just can't get over the 000 "Big Heaping Chest Coin and Stoplight Motif"~~~

...Does that make me a Kamen Rider Fascist or something?

 

[MattComix]

I don't know about you guys, but I still haven't gotten over the way the costume looks.

I mean, when Decade turned up, I complained for a week or two then just let it go (and actually felt better seeing it in action). Can't say there are Heisei Rider "basic" forms that I've disliked save for Decade (I tend to complain more of their powered-up forms). But I just can't get over the 000 "Big Heaping Chest Coin and Stoplight Motif"~~~

...Does that make me a Kamen Rider Fascist or something?

No, it makes you a person with an opinion on the main form design which is valid because it's the major visual component of the series.

..and really I don't think any henshin hero suit should have to support 3 or more power animal motifs at the same time. That's a recipe for fugly and I think the OOO design shows that. It's more toy design than Rider design and while I don't think anybody has a problem with Rider or Sentai stuff being toyetic, toy sales shouldn't be an excuse for bad design work and needless gimmick overkill for your tv show regardless.

 

[FlashNeko]

Didn't the Transformers In Kamen Rider thing start with Ryuuki and the way the Survive Mode Mirror Monsters could turn into motercycles? And then you had Faiz's transforming bikes.

Hell, you could even argue Machine Tornader from Agito was the prototype for the whole thing.