Ultraman Retsuden - Ultraman Biography show

Ah, I see Knight doesn't know of Dark Lucifer.

Originally, KP, Nexus was meant to run for a good 50 episodes.

From what we saw in the unused opening, Zagi and Noa (Nagi as the host) were going to team up.

This was because the true big bad, Dark Lucifer, had yet to be revealed. He was a combination of the powers of Mephisto, Faust and Zagi.

Considering the slowly reemerging love Nexus has been getting, I think it's possible to dust off Lucifer as the penultimate big bad.

Thanks, Burkion! All my info on Nexus comes from Wikipedia - and from other posters here like yourself. Perhaps one of these projects surrounding Zero III will finally resolve that issue. At this point, best bet would be the "All-Star Ultraman League" story that's supposed to start in Terebi Magazine.

Man, Nagi had to team up with the being who corrupted her boyfriend, and was responsible for the deaths of many innocent people?! Keiichi Hasegawa really outdid himself on this one!

Does anyone have any idea on who are writing and producing all these various projects? We know that Hasegawa's writing and Yagi's direction, plus excellent performances by the actors, were what made Super 8 Ultra Brothers a success. But, both of those guys left the company after Super 8. And, I've recently learned that writer-producer Junya Okabe left the company shortly after Ultra Galaxy Legend. Nexus may be getting a revival because his writers are literally the last people standing ...
 
But, Darksenshi, those pics are from what Okunohoshimichi is calling the Ultraman Retsuden DVDs that GekiDan originally posted. Which seems to be a separate project from the Terebi Magazine "All-Star Ultraman League" that Aoi Kurenai first posted on, and whose pic I was referring to. Now, if all these projects are indeed interconnected, then everything stands.

But, I continue to find it ... interesting... on how many red and blue Ultras Tsuburaya had kept on creating. It's almost as if they're trying to ... recreate something that had worked out ok at first, and then they thought it failed them. Or maybe, it was the other way around ...


Oh. I see. Then you're right. Mebius should be in it then if Emperor is in it.
 
I'm surprised that there's only one Red & Purple Ultraman. And he also seems to be the only Purple Ultraman too from what I've seen. I like that though, makes him really unique :D
 
The unused opening showed a stylized shot of Noa and Zagi back to back in a sort of reverse face-off. To say they were going to team up is like saying Faust, Mephisto, and every form of Nexus were going to form a sentai-type fighting unit simply because they all shared a similar sequence in Nexus' second opening. I don't know exactly how Lucifer figured into the Nexus plot but as far as I know, the story would still have had the Noa VS Zagi conflict at its core given that this conflict was introduced at the very beginning of the Ultra N Project - before Nexus had even aired!

My guess is that Lucifer is merely a concept that eventually morphed into Ezmael, the final monster in the series. Honestly though, the concept of Zagi as an imperfect, evil, chaotic clone of Noa created by the Visitors out of admiration is probably cooler than anything Lucifer could have been.

That and I'm still certain that Nagi would NOT have become Noa.

Here's Lucifer's concept art, by the way:

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Also, here are the images from the unused opening shots in question:

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Given the HEAVILY stylized nature of the openings, I've NEVER interpreted these images as showing a possible team-up between Zagi and Noa. They just look cool. And actually, the shots of Noa and Zagi together are from unused eye-catches, not openings.
 
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The unused opening showed a stylized shot of Noa and Zagi back to back in a sort of reverse face-off. To say they were going to team up is like saying Faust, Mephisto, and every form of Nexus were going to form a sentai-type fighting unit simply because they all shared a similar sequence in Nexus' second opening. I don't know exactly how Lucifer figured into the Nexus plot but as far as I know, the story would still have had the Noa VS Zagi conflict at its core given that this conflict was introduced at the very beginning of the Ultra N Project - before Nexus had even aired!

My guess is that Lucifer is merely a concept that eventually morphed into Ezmael, the final monster in the series. Honestly though, the concept of Zagi as an imperfect, evil, chaotic clone of Noa created by the Visitors out of admiration is probably cooler than anything Lucifer could have been.

That and I'm still certain that Nagi would NOT have become Noa.

Here's Lucifer's concept art, by the way:

[hide]LePY9.avif[/hide]

Also, here are the images from the unused opening shots in question:

[hide]Ewrza.avif
fNzvM.avif[/hide]

Given the HEAVILY stylized nature of the openings, I've NEVER interpreted these images as showing a possible team-up between Zagi and Noa. They just look cool. And actually, the shots of Noa and Zagi together are from unused eye-catches, not openings.

Who were these "Visitors"? Why was this shown at the very beginning of The N Project - yet not developed during the story until it was, literally, too late?

And, what makes you so sure that Nagi would not have become Noa?

The reason I ask is that these are patented Hasegawa beats:

1) Good and Evil must stand together to protect Life itself.

a) Keigo Masakai, who brutally attacked Daigo Mandoka and stole his Spark Lens to morph into evil Tiga - ultimately tried to help the stricken Tiga at the end of the show, during Ghantazoa's attack.

b) General Gondou, who had brutally ambushed and murdered Shin Asuka - ended up forcing Ryo Yumimura to execute him in order to revitalize Dyna during the beginning of the final battle with the Spheres.

c) Hiro Fujimiya, who assaulted Gamu Takayama and XIG countless times, ended up surrendering his power to Gamu and sacrificing himself - after realizing that he'd been a pawn of evil and had brought disaster to the world. He was far more fortunate than most - he somehow survived, and got a chance to redeem himself, finally standing as a true partner to Gaia.

d) In the final Cosmos movie, Ultraman Justice, who had previously assisted Cosmos in the defense of Earth (probably protecting the last survivors of the race he'd saved from annihilation and had settled secretly, but peacefully, on Earth), was apparently brainwashed to attack Cosmos and humanity. But, he realized it was a pyrrhic victory and almost died defending Earth while Mushashi's family & friends revived him with their love and life energies. Then, teaming up with the revived Cosmos to help the NeoEYES take down the invaders - and settling on Earth to protect it while Cosmos accompanied Mushashi on the revived Noah Project.

e) In Mebius' battle with Emperor, at least one sworn enemy of Mebius ends up sacrificing his life to defend the weakened Mirai Hibino and GUYS, plus when Ryu (temporarily) inherits the Hikari Morpher, which had belonged to a sometime antagonist of Mebius, Mebius ends up with his own morpher, plus a morpher that had been redeemed from evil.

f) In Mega Monster Battle NEO, Reionyx Hunter Dail, who destroyed an entire space station to destroy Rei, killing who knows how many people; turned around and gave the human crew of the Space Pendragon a super-weapon. Then sacrificed himself to save the crew from his commanding officer, who had taken them hostage to force Rei to fight to the death. One suspects that since they'd come from the future, that they knew the Pendragon's crew would be instrumental in saving Ultra, and thereby, the Universe, from Belial.

As far as the angry Nagi not being able to hold onto the Light, well, in Mega Monster Battle, Commander Haruna, who had been deeply suspicious of Rei, finally came around and accepted him after he proved his sincerity. If Nagi could accept a murdering monster as a partner against a far worse monster, perhaps she would've been forced to give up her hatred as well.
 
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I'm surprised that there's only one Red & Purple Ultraman. And he also seems to be the only Purple Ultraman too from what I've seen. I like that though, makes him really unique :D

I think that's because, in many ways, Tiga is still the favorite Heisei Ultra of the writers and producers. You'll notice that they keep on trying to develop different red and blue Ultras, but Dyna is still by far the best.

And, it's only with Mebius that they introduced the blue M78 Ultras. We still don't know where the other blue Ultras, like Agul and Cosmos, come from. And, it's only in Ultra Galaxy Legend itself that the first red and blue M78 Ultra was introduced. Perhaps the movie that's been worked on now will explain that.
 
Who were these "Visitors"? Why was this shown at the very beginning of The N Project - yet not developed during the story until it was, literally, too late?

The visitors are in the series from episode 1, though their presence is not made entirely clear until deeper along into the series. Then the series was canned before they could be developed fully but they're still given a good chunk of exposition in the final episode as well as bits peppered throughout the latter half of the show.

Basically, if you ever actually bother to sit down and watch Nexus, the Visitors are the tiny jellyfish-like organisms that hang out in the glass tube in the Illustrator's office and chat with him, helping him perceive when and where the Space Beasts appear. As I understand it, they encountered Noa on their home world and were so profoundly in awe of this great being of light that they went about constructing a copy for themselves: Zagi. Zagi was imperfect and became corrupted, however, destroyed the Visitor's world, and chased them when they tried to escape to Earth where he began his reign of terror anew, creating the Space Beasts and Dark Ultras to do his bidding. Noa followed Zagi to Earth, leading to the events of Ultraman The Next and Ultraman Nexus and the Visitors offered their technology to aid the humans in the fight against Zagi. The memory erasers, weapons, Chrome Chesters, Lethe, etc. were all Visitor tech or developed from Visitor technology.

The Noa/Zagi/Visitors backstory was mostly detailed in the final episode and elaborated on in books that came out after the series' demise. I assume it would have been explored more deeply had the series continued all the way to episode 50.

And don't say "too late" like TPC had any choice in the matter. The show was CANCELLED with almost an entire quarter of the series to go. Instead of ragging on them for the plot points that were caught in the crossfire and left a little muddied, they should be commended for somehow managing to save the series and produce one of the best damned series finales the Ultra series has ever seen.

And, what makes you so sure that Nagi would not have become Noa?

I admit that it's pure speculation on my part but it just doesn't jive in my mind. Jun, Ren, and Nagi were all role models to Komon who, in succumbing to their personal hamartiae, paved the way for Komon's character growth to surpass them all and ultimately become the savior of the Human and Visitor races.
 
For some reasons, many Japanese fans do believe that Nagi would become Lucifer because the "dark side" of her. Maybe it is mentioned in one of those books.
 
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