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[Sentinel King]

Those words that you guys just described..I don't know what to say. I'm very speechless. I'm having a trouble find the right tone to speak.

 

[Skyknight]

I agree, this thread disgusts me. I've lost respect for a good few people in here. I won't name names, but this **** really is why America is seen as the turd that it is.

 

[KingRanger]

I think he's just being more flexible to who the opponent might be, versus every prisoner of war being a potential nuke handler.

Bottom line for me is that I don't know the best answer... all I know is that torture should be far from the first line of options and if it ever comes to that.... don't make it public knowledge.

So you are for keeping things from people? Are you for the government keeping secrets? Like I said before, if you open the door just a little you had better be ready for them to come barging in.

 

[Forever Knight]

Ok, relax virgins.


Jesus Christ.

 

[FangireQueen]

So you are for keeping things from people? Are you for the government keeping secrets? Like I said before, if you open the door just a little you had better be ready for them to come barging in.

I think what Keith means is that we don't necessarily NEED to know everything the government does. We *SHOULD* be able to trust that they're doing the right thing. However, the reason we crave to know everything is because we don't trust them. I think the government shouldn't keep secrets, but there are possibly some things that we as a nation just don't need to know really.

 

[KingRanger]

Ok, relax virgins.


Jesus Christ.

And people wondered why I didn't take this thread seriously at first? This reply here and the "bitches" comment in another thread. :redface2:

 

[KingRanger]

I think what Keith means is that we don't necessarily NEED to know everything the government does. We *SHOULD* be able to trust that they're doing the right thing. However, the reason we crave to know everything is because we don't trust them. I think the government shouldn't keep secrets, but there are possibly some things that we as a nation just don't need to know really.

No. Just no. The government was created by the people for the people. They work for us. The minute you start this "It's ok for them to keep secrets" nonsense, as is happening now, we all lose.

 

[Quark]

but this **** really is why America is seen as the turd that it is.

The real kicker is that most people are more concerned with the mail box of Tiger Wood's neighbor than they are the 30,000 troops we're going to be sending into Afghanistan. That's how Bush and Cheney rose to power in the first place. Ignorance.

 

[Forever Knight]

And people wondered why I didn't take this thread seriously at first? This reply here and the "bitches" comment in another thread. :redface2:

Bro, when you act like it then what do you expect?.

But ya' I got my questions answered so this thread can be closed.

 

[Shirubaa]

I never said there was an absolute answer, if someone goes into your house and isn't carrying a weapon or anything and says "I'm going to kill your wife and kids" you're not going to automatically tie them up and threaten to put their fingers in the food processor, but if you're in an impossible situation that's time sensitive and you know that person has the information you need to save innocent people, you do it. Waterboarding wasn't used on a daily basis on every person we captured when trying to find out their names. No conservative advocates that sort of practice at all, so when I present a situation to you in which something like waterboarding (which causes no physical pain at all) is used, I automatically become a fear monger. I see.