Kamen Rider Gaim Ep 23 - "Now Let's Go! Kachidoki Arms!"

Why is that Kachidoki Arms is just given to Kouta with the side-dish of exposition that underlines the themes of the show in the most blatant unsubtle way possible? Didn’t the mid-season upgrades used to have some level of story and character development behind it or just was overall earned through putting some effort, rather than having the narrative convenience transparently just give it for free?

I wouldn’t have too much of a problem if this didn’t already happen twice. First the Lemon Energy and now this.

Because that episode didn't have enough character development for ya?

In this cae it wasn't the gaining of the upgrade that was the story important element, but rather what Kouta DID with it. Gaining power is meaningless in itself, it's what you do with it that matters.
 
Because that episode didn't have enough character development for ya?

In this case it wasn't the gaining of the upgrade that was the story important element, but rather what Kouta DID with it. Gaining power is meaningless in itself, it's what you do with it that matters.

That isn't a good thing.

What he does with it is essentially the same if he were just handed a big red button to blow stuff up for Kouta and you'd have the same results, story and character-wise. Probably a lot cheaper too special effects-wise.

This is essentially narrative brute-forcing. Kouta is not a character with any autonomy, who has to work or do much of anything towards his goals. He's basically just "allowed" to do these things by the narrative.
 
I disagree, I believe that Kouta has most certainly earned this. Kachidoki represents his 'triumph' against the things that everyone else has faced and failed. He has both held on to his humanity(Ryouma and co.'s failure.) and his hope(Takatora and Micchi's failure.) in spite of both the horror of what he's done and what he faces. Sure it took a little prodding from Sagara, but when shown that there is a way for him to move forward he immediately takes it instead of falling back into his depression(Greater victory than you probably think.)
 
I disagree, I believe that Kouta has most certainly earned this. Kachidoki represents his 'triumph' against the things that everyone else has faced and failed. He has both held on to his humanity(Ryouma and co.'s failure.) and his hope(Takatora and Micchi's failure.) in spite of both the horror of what he's done and what he faces. Sure it took a little prodding from Sagara, but when shown that there is a way for him to move forward he immediately takes it instead of falling back into his depression(Greater victory than you probably think.)

Fine and dandy, if we actually saw that development and didn't have it immediately after the OOOH SCARY BIG SOULCRUSHING REVEAL, or even knew what Kouta's character was beyond "nice" and "kinda dumb".
 
Fine and dandy, if we actually saw that development and didn't have it immediately after the OOOH SCARY BIG SOULCRUSHING REVEAL, or even knew what Kouta's character was beyond "nice" and "kinda dumb".

I don't see any problems with finishing the plot with a single episode, and I also don't see any point in drawing it out if you can do it in 1 episode. The scenes with Mai, Mitchi, mysterious girl and Sagara are enough to demonstrate Kouta's state of mind, his despair and his dilemma. More than that, and you're just wallowing in the misery and the angst. The plot sticks around only as long as it needed to, and wrapped up succinctly with Kouta 1) coming to terms with Yuuya's death, and 2) the answer to his dilemma; what should he be fighting for? What can he do to save Zawame?
 
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I don't see any problems with finishing the plot with a single episode, and I also don't see any point in drawing it out if you can do it in 1 episode. The scenes with Mai, Mitchi, mysterious girl and Sagara are enough to demonstrate Kouta's state of mind, his despair and his dilemma. More than that, and you're just wallowing in the misery and the angst. The plot sticks around only as long as it needed to, and wrapped up succinctly with Kouta 1) coming to terms with Yuuya's death, and 2) the answer to his dilemma; what should he be fighting for? What can he do to save Zawame?
This wouldn't be a problem, if the development wasn't resolved with exposition.

"You should fights stuff" "WHY YES I WILL" is essentially what happened. Narrative demands something, and Kouta obeys. Its a blatant ham-string.
And its not even exposition that focuses on the character of Kouta, but rather just underlining the big themes the show is toying with. We don't learn anything about Kouta other than he's sad for a bit and then he isn't sad.

Coming in terms with Yuuya's death was relegated to be vague implication, and the answer to his dilemma is again, just handing him the car keys.
 
even knew what Kouta's character was beyond "nice" and "kinda dumb".

We know that Kouta liked dancing, but stopped in order to focus on gaining money to help his sister. We know that Mai sees him as self-sacrificial, putting the happiness of others ahead of his own. We also saw his position regarding Yggdrazil's path. How, in some ways, he felt close to it, but ended up rejecting it in the end. We saw that he seemed pretty lost in this episode, because he felt alone, and clearly couldn't agree with Micchy's view on things.

"You should fights stuff" "WHY YES I WILL" is essentially what happened. Narrative demands something, and Kouta obeys. Its a blatant ham-string.
And its not even exposition that focuses on the character of Kouta, but rather just underlining the big themes the show is toying with. We don't learn anything about Kouta other than he's sad for a bit and then he isn't sad.

Kouta's development here is directly connected to the morals of the show. Since the start, they had foreshadowed and built up a conflict between these three paths, and now Kouta seems to have chosen his own position there. After agreeing with that path, he receives help from someone else who seems to want to see that path prevailing, both, moral, because he sees that he's not the only one seeing things like that, and in power, with the actual power up. The power up is directly connected to the narrative and also Kouta's character. It's not unearned in any way, nor is it something that has no value to the narrative. Even if you dislike how that development was handled, it was clearly there. It's not a new toy just for the sake of it.

Also, yes, coming to terms with Yuuya's death wasn't the focus of the episode, and it ends up feeling relatively sidelined, but I fail to see how that's a problem. The viewer had little time to get to know Yuuya or sympathize with him, so spending much screentime on the characters' reactions to his death would just be a mistake. Just look at Wizard, which in spite of the lack of availability of Koyomi's actress, still attempted to keep her in the center of the show's drama. That was just a big mistake. Here, we know that Kouta decided to carry that burden in the end to avoid other sacrifices, and that's what matters. Trying to make the viewer feel for Yuuya at this point would be a fruitless battle.
 
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This wouldn't be a problem, if the development wasn't resolved with exposition.

"You should fights stuff" "WHY YES I WILL" is essentially what happened. Narrative demands something, and Kouta obeys. Its a blatant ham-string.
And its not even exposition that focuses on the character of Kouta, but rather just underlining the big themes the show is toying with. We don't learn anything about Kouta other than he's sad for a bit and then he isn't sad.

You know, it's good if a character resolves an inner conflict and a dilemma by finding the answer "on their own". But that doesn't mean having to dig it up from a vacuum, or walking around town until you have an epiphany. Getting advice and taking on other people's opinions if you agree with them is perfectly natural and acceptable.

And if that advice happens to be a vehicle for the writer to convey a moral and a sentiment, then so be it. This is a show aiming to inspire good value in the hearts of its audience, there's nothing really wrong in not being so roundabout about it. It's something that is not related to Kouta or anything he's going through? It has everything to do with Kouta, and the other characters. It says that there is another path for Kouta to take other than "taking advantage of it for your own selfish gains"(Ryouma) or "yielding to it and working within the system, saying 'it can't be helped', 'it's just the way it is'"(Takatora). And that is changing the corrupt and rigged system, and making your own rules.
 
You know, it's good if a character resolves an inner conflict and a dilemma by finding the answer "on their own". But that doesn't mean having to dig it up from a vacuum, or walking around town until you have an epiphany. Getting advice and taking on other people's opinions if you agree with them is perfectly natural and acceptable.
But this is less "listening to other people's opinions" and more "you should do this becase story themes demands it, don't be sad anymore".

Kouta doesn't resolve anything, he has someone else to do it for him. Specifically, the narrative.

We know that Kouta liked dancing, but stopped in order to focus on gaining money to help his sister. We know that Mai sees him as self-sacrificial, putting the happiness of others ahead of his own. We also saw his position regarding Yggdrazil's path. How, in some ways, he felt close to it, but ended up rejecting it in the end. We saw that he seemed pretty lost in this episode, because he felt alone, and clearly couldn't agree with Micchy's view on things.
Those are pretty much still all extensions of being nice. Even if it isn't, such as being self-sacrificial, it isn't focused on even the least bit, or atleast nearly enough.

And as a friend eloquently put, not liking people's extreme views seems less like a stance he’s taking than an indication that he’s a limp rag.

Kouta's development here is directly connected to the morals of the show. Since the start, they had foreshadowed and built up a conflict between these three paths, and now Kouta seems to have chosen his own position there. After agreeing with that path, he receives help from someone else who seems to want to see that path prevailing, both, moral, because he sees that he's not the only one seeing things like that, and in power, with the actual power up. The power up is directly connected to the narrative and also Kouta's character. It's not unearned in any way, nor is it something that has no value to the narrative. Even if you dislike how that development was handled, it was clearly there. It's not a new toy just for the sake of it.
Problem is, this isn't written well at all. This doesn't come across as something the character himself realizes, so much as he is a pawn that the narrative has a set role for.
Everything here comes from either really vague implication or just outright spelling it out through exposition.

Also, yes, coming to terms with Yuuya's death wasn't the focus of the episode, and it ends up feeling relatively sidelined, but I fail to see how that's a problem. The viewer had little time to get to know Yuuya or sympathize with him, so spending much screentime on the characters' reactions to his death would just be a mistake.
Yes it is, and no it woudn't. See, the problem is that Yuuya's death IS the focus of this small arc. Its the turning point that results in Kachidoki Arms.
But not even getting a smallest glimpse of what Yuuya's importance for other characters was, not seeing their reactions, or even so much as see Yuuya's disappearence's effect on the world they inhabit further removes any point for the viewer to even come close to bother with anything that comes with it.
Which specifically includes Kachidoki.

Just look at Wizard, which in spite of the lack of availability of Koyomi's actress, still attempted to keep her in the center of the show's drama. That was just a big mistake. Here, we know that Kouta decided to carry that burden in the end to avoid other sacrifices, and that's what matters. Trying to make the viewer feel for Yuuya at this point would be a fruitless battle.

Yes, but what elevates Koyomi from Yuuya is that atleast we actually had something for Koyomi. More than Yuuya that is. Whatever failings Wizard had with Koyomi, its a way more bigger failing to not even bother and just render the whole situation with Yuuya as a BIG SHOCKING SOULCRUSHING REVEAL for Kouta to feel sad about for 15 minutes. He's a story device, not a character, and its so blatant about it.
 
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I gotta disagree with you cannibals. The whole Sagara and Kouta interaction leading up to Kouta getting Kachidoki, is one of the strongest moments in the series thus far. And so little of it is actually about what's being said or done. The importance lies so much more in the subtext. The implications along with the questions being raised about Sagara's intentions are what make that scene amazing. It seems like you're only taking things at face value without taking time to appreciate all of the subtext. Seems like a waste considering how good this series is.
 

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