Kamen Rider Decade - Talk UP!

[Shougo B'Stard]

Do we need to go over why Ren did the restart on everything?.

But Ren didn't -- if he had, I would have liked the Ryuki finale more, it would have shown Ren's growth. It was Shiro who undid everything at the request of Yui, which was just lame.

So, that last little scene where Ren bumps into Shinji means nothing. They don't know each other, Ren's an asshole street thug again who would as soon stomp as Shinji as see him. It would have been better if Ren undid everything, but retained the knowledge of the series' events, and showed recognition towards Shinji in that last scene, but...that wasn't what the show did.

 

[Izzy]

I like the theory that Kaito had Invisible loaded in the Diendriver, I mean he used it on Tsukasa and himself in Amazon's World, couldn't see why ti wouldn't work here...

 

[Forever Knight]

Maybe Ren eventually grew a heart and then if u mix the movie ending in with Yuri killing herself... that may have set the reset button for him.

Either way you cannot sit there and tell me it was not a solid and dramatic finale. It was good. Or would you prefer crap endings like the **** Faiz, Kuuga,Hibiki, and Kabuto fed us?.

Nobody is ever happy.

 

[Real Action]

Invisible has been shown many times to work on the person holding the gun, not the thing he's pointing at. There were many times Kaito was pointing the gun at someone and used Invisible and only HE became invisible, so I doubt that's what's in there.

 

[Shougo B'Stard]

Either way you cannot sit there and tell me it was not a solid and dramatic finale. It was good. Or would you prefer crap endings like the **** Faiz, Kuuga,Hibiki, and Kabuto fed us?

Finales that undo everything the entire series built up and reduce it to nothing isn't dramatic. And the episode wasn't really solid, either. People pick on Agito's finale for seeming like the finale was filmed in a person's backyard, when Ryuki's finale seemed like it was filmed in an even more limited location, like a kid's tree house.

Kuuga's finale was good. Episode 48's final fight wasn't supposed to be a super flashy CGI battle, but show the emotion of the battle. Episode 49 tied up all of the characters in a satisfying way. It was a fresh, change of pace for a finale.

Faiz was a lost cause even before its nothing finale. Hibiki's finale is up there with Ryuki's in terms of disappointment.

Decade's finale would seem less like a scam if the show had known what it was doing and answered SOME questions, and if it wasn't such a waiting period for the next movie. Toei's taking a risk that anybody's even going to care about Decade by December.

 

[Forever Knight]

Finales that undo everything the entire series built up and reduce it to nothing isn't dramatic. And the episode wasn't really solid, either. People pick on Agito's finale for seeming like the finale was filmed in a person's backyard, when Ryuki's finale seemed like it was filmed in an even more limited location, like a kid's tree house.

There was a valid reason for the undo. The only real issue is how Shiro got ahold of any of the things and was able to do what he did. That is it. It was a metaphore about sending troops out to war and how the majority of them are dead.

Kuuga's finale was good. Episode 48's final fight wasn't supposed to be a super flashy CGI battle, but show the emotion of the battle. Episode 49 tied up all of the characters in a satisfying way. It was a fresh, change of pace for a finale.

I understand and respect that but you don't go into a finale like that on a returning sub genre. I didn't appreciate the lack of action in the final fight and the talking in the final episode. I felt cheated. I would have been more pleased if the Grongi won.

Faiz was a lost cause even before its nothing finale. Hibiki's finale is up there with Ryuki's in terms of disappointment.

How the **** was Faiz a lost cause?. I ask myself if these shows are so horrible to you then why do you even both continue watching them man?. You sound like a watered down version of that other guy... who's a member here. I forgot what her name was.

Decade's finale would seem less like a scam if the show had known what it was doing and answered SOME questions, and if it wasn't such a waiting period for the next movie. Toei's taking a risk that anybody's even going to care about Decade by December.

So is the All Riders the finale or the next movie?... Maybe both?...

I was happy with Decade's finale, it left me wondering wtf is going on. Now it's up to these 2 movies to seal the deal.

 

[Reimon]

At the end, Yuusuke's going to be evil just a bite from Kivala's power & at the second movie he's going to take over the world¿

 

[Forever Knight]

At the end, Yuusuke's going to be evil just a bite from Kivala's power & at the second movie he's going to take over the world¿

Remember that Kivara fed off Narutaki in her first few eps so she must be evil.... We still don't know much and if Igadevil is in the same boat with us then I guess it's the DCD/W Movie that'll hopfully answer our questions. I just don't wanna wait until 2010 for them.... ****.

 

[Reimon]

You mean Kivala was off on her own¿

 

[Shougo B'Stard]

How the **** was Faiz a lost cause?. I ask myself if these shows are so horrible to you then why do you even both continue watching them man?.

:nono: :rolleyes2:

Faiz had a promising premise, a promising start, but it never did anything. The series can be summed up like this: "Give me back the belt." "No, it's my belt now." A corporation of undead dudes build belts for the power to protect another undead dude, even though they already have powers to become monsters, and are completely unable to retrieve said belts from the anorexic and angsty teens who take 'em...? Really?

Really, 40 episodes of incompetent villains who are unable to retrieve belts they don't even need? That's it? Oh, and horribly written distractions like Takumi and Kiba getting into an insane lover's spat that would easily be resolved if they just talked things out. And then those two other idiots who don't realize they're texting each other when they're sitting at the same table? Inoue's really arrogant about Faiz and thinks it's a well written piece of art, but when all of his characters in the show behave like morons...it's just not as serious as he thinks it is. By the time it hit those terrible episodes where Mari died and Takumi became the Wolf Orphenoch, it was a lost cause.

You're the one that brought up other shitty finales, so don't get all agitated when I tell you why I think they sucked or not. Sooooo sorry for liking shows to make sense or be well written.