Death Penalty For Rebellous Teens

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How is it that this Charlie fuqua guy is not in jail right now? yes, teenagers can be real pricks but sticking the finger up at parental authority sounds like a pretty shitty reason for giving the death penalty.


:sayin:

 

[Ziginz Zegell]

Very funny, ZZ.

We never needed such laws. We don't need them now. These things are making people associate fear with respect. You can't respect someone if all you do is fear that person, and your fairy gave me no such thing.

So you're afraid of God? That's...interesting. Though I doubt that is what you meant. :laugh:

Still I'm not afraid of God, but I am afraid of doing wrong. Some things are obvious, but others are more difficult to decipher. God won't strike me down if I mess up, but that doesn't change the fact that I want to do what is right for myself and those around me. It comes down to the question of what is right and what is wrong.

Giving a rebellious teen the death penalty is wrong. Punching a rebellious teen and telling him to go to his room when he has gone too far, not sure. My dad punched me once when I was being a massive dick. I'm not scared of my dad, but I knew that I had crossed the line. Should you beat your teen? No. Should you just let them do whatever they want when your words don't work? No. Should you tackle them into a submission hold until they tap out? Yes. Hmmm let's hope my wife is tougher them me least we ever have a daughter.

 

[shingamyeonblack]

There are very few things that I fear and that is not one of them.

I hope that you get a bodybuilder type son. :laugh:

 

[Ziginz Zegell]

They make bean bag shot gun rounds for that...right? Or a hornet's nest in the middle of the night. He wants to act like a prisoner then I'll treat him like one! ....that could be misconstrude...

 

[shingamyeonblack]

You want to shoot your future son with bean bags? :eyebrow:

It has begun.

 

[NAND NOR]

Very funny, ZZ.

We never needed such laws. We don't need them now. These things are making people associate fear with respect. You can't respect someone if all you do is fear that person, and your fairy gave me no such thing.

fear
noun

1. a distressing emotion aroused by impending danger, evil, pain, etc., whether the threat is real or imagined; the feeling or condition of being afraid. Synonyms: foreboding, apprehension, consternation, dismay, dread, terror, fright, panic, horror, trepidation, qualm. Antonyms: courage, security, calm, intrepidity.

2. a specific instance of or propensity for such a feeling: an abnormal fear of heights. Synonyms: phobia, aversion; bête noire, bogy, bogey, bugbear. Antonyms: liking, fondness, penchant, predilection.

3. concern or anxiety; solicitude: a fear for someone's safety.

4. reverential awe, especially toward God: the fear of God. Synonyms: awe, respect, reverence, veneration.

5. something that causes feelings of dread or apprehension; something a person is afraid of: Cancer is a common fear.

 

[shingamyeonblack]

Definition 1, which pretty much relates to all things except definition 4, which was stuck in there.

 

[Bigdog]

Very funny, ZZ.

We never needed such laws. We don't need them now. These things are making people associate fear with respect. You can't respect someone if all you do is fear that person, and your fairy gave me no such thing.

Laws such as :
-Shall not kill.
-Shall not steal.
-Shall not covet others ,or their wives.
-Shall not cheat on your significant other.
-Shall not disrespect your elders.

[HIDE]Religion came way before Atheism and since it did, forms much of the backbone of rational society whether you like it or not. Atheists take influence from the local culture [that is, religious] and use it in a framework that requires no deity. I am perfectly fine with that as a former atheist because I could care less what or whom you believe in unless said thing is used to harm me and others.

You are correct about respect being preferential to fear, but even respect is developed from the positive effects of fear.

-Because of a fear of discipline, children are kept in line.

-Because of a fear of consequences, many of the public follow the law.

-Because of a fear of foreclosure and other stuffs, people pay their bills.

-Because of a healthy amount of fear of x thing, people don't go around shooting people up or children don't act up like spoiled brats.

Fear is not the issue in this, it is an unhealthy amount of fear that I would call terror.

-Because of terror from being beat by their parents, children bully others.
-Because of terror from an oppressive regime, people cower.
-Because of terror from retribution from the mafia /government , people comply so they can live aka walk on glass.
-Because of unhealthy amount of fear, many are scared , disgusted or terrified of posing against the status quo.

How can you hate a "fairy" that does not exist? [/HIDE]

OMG your fairy worshipers happened to have some ideas that coincide with mine although they say stuff like "kill the children" from time to time and I don't.

Ideas that which were universally established by most religions around the world? Even Socrates, a notable Atheist, was influenced by the religious people of his era and fed up with the corruption and censorship in Athens.

[HIDE]
Try to explain away the 150 million + deaths caused by Atheistic communism. [Stalin, Hitler, Mao Zedong, Che] and the amount of cruelty still witnessed in North Korea.

Also explain why Japan, being as secular as it is claimed, has one of the highest suicide rates and other issues while Europe is teetering on the collapse following the ideas of Marx?

I would not criticize Atheists as a whole for these killers' deeds, so why would you openly generalize entire bodies of differing and similar lines of religious thought as "evil"?

So, how is the whole "religion is evil" thing pulling out when in reality, it is statism alongside historical context and crony politics that caused these issues, not religion?

Much of the things in the OT were for that society only because their conditions were third world.

Having a great population was great and having many children with many wives as acceptable. Homosexuals were by that time demonized and killed due to their lack of understanding in the earlier parts of the OT because they went against such much needed populations. But by Ruth and Esther, their Lesbian relationship became the cornerstone of the Christian marriage.

In many societies of this era to be particular, infanticide,Spartan eugenics alongside other crimes such as murdering your own children made sense if they went out of line, especially in the Roman line of thinking. The father could choose to sell his wife, kill the children and replace them and it would perfectly fine, yet most didn't. I could go on, but the same amount of thinking goes to today with abortion and how government demonizes types of marriages and prefers certain people through public policy.

Children were had to help with the chores and to maintain property ownership and in many cases, males were seen as preferential because they provided the meat during the hunt. Women and younger children gathered,however, as the woman dealt with the domestic duties with her community or extended family.

All societies new or old face these issues, but today, we have it lucky. [/HIDE]

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None of that actually happened, so let's go back to common sense and logic. You only can depend on these things to survive.

Funny how you utterly and conveniently ignore the mounds of deaths under Atheist governments, yet call those whom follow a deity lacking either.

 

[Zander Yurami]

Everyone chill the **** out! Cant we all just agree that this guy is a complete nut job? XD



Blessed Be!
~Z Proud Pagan

 

[Ziginz Zegell]

That should be your campaign slogan Z, though I think we are still alright. Threads like these are made for this sort of conversation to occur. As long as we don't take the comments too seriously, don't explode in a volcanic rage, and post with a certain level of dignity and respect, all should be well.

Any longer Bigdog and I would say that post needs some Hide tags, though I see the point you are trying to make. Although in the first part I think shin meant specifically the laws about killing kids, not the big ones you listed.