A little disappointed...Gokaiger

[KingRanger]

I loved gokai. I loved it as a regular sentai, and a tribute show. I loved the gokaigers themselves. Each one brought something to the table. Joe came off as the broody one most of time, but he had his moments of inspiration for the rest of the team. Doc was just fun. I loved his poses, how he was the chef, just the little things he did. Luca/k I forget anyway she grew a lot. She learned that money wasn't everything and really grew as a person. Marvelous was a fun character. He became a great leader. Aihm also grew. What I am getting at is these characters grew as people during the show. It had to do with the past sentai teams, and themselves.

I also loved Gai. He was how I probably would have been had I met those people. He was serious when he needed to be, and funny at the same time.

My only problem with Gokai are just minor nitpicks. Like where basco got his super form and trumpet.

 

[Astraea]

I think if you're not a fan of Sentai, or you've never seen ANY of the previous series, it's a little meaningless to watch Gokaiger. you wouldn't understand the tribute eps or the why they're using certain Gokai Changes (they do provide a meaning in certain situations) etc. I don't see how guest roles are the main problem, because it's an ANNIVERSARY series.

This argument makes zero sense. Gokaiger is a showed aimed at very young children. Most of those kids have zero knowledge of any past sentai except maybe the previous series. You're telling those kids the show isn't for them? Getting a bit elitist aren't you? Especially since the target audience is those children!

Having powers of the past teams is a neat concept. But you need your main characters to drive the show. And, when you had that, the episodes were really enjoyable. Gokaiger had an absolutely amazing start. Those were the episodes where the past Sentai stars were cameos. It was cool, it respected the past but kept the focus solely where it needed to be.

Good storytelling lets a series stand on it's own. It's possible to watch Star Trek: The Next Generation without having seen a single minute of the original series. Same universe, same concepts, same weapons and a respect for the past but good enough that it's able to stand on it's own.

 

[Jacky392000]

This argument makes zero sense. Gokaiger is a showed aimed at very young children. Most of those kids have zero knowledge of any past sentai except maybe the previous series. You're telling those kids the show isn't for them? Getting a bit elitist aren't you? Especially since the target audience is those children!

my opinions were aimed at the thread starter, not the general audience in Japan. :rolleyes2:

 

[Shougo B'Stard]

Did you enjoy the show mostly for its anniversary aspects or did you enjoy it for its own story as well?

The anniversary aspect played a big part in it, but I did like the Gokaiger side, but maybe it's a little superficial -- I got a kick out of the way it had hints of the '80s Toei sci-fi henshin heroes with the Star Warsy vibe to it. (Which I suppose it why they thought Gavan fit so well with it...)

 

[Loghorn]

The only two problems I have with the series so far, are

1.) The villains. Very, very underwhelming. These are the same ones that made the 34 sentai teams sacrifice their powers? Get out of here. The only best villain was Basco, & he's a secondary villain.

2.) J.A.K.Q., Denjiman, Sun Vulcan, Goggle V, Dynaman, Bioman, Changeman, Flashman, Maskman, Turboranger, Fiveman, & Zyuranger not receiving proper tribute episodes. WTF? I know that they at least managed to bring back the actors/actresses for those shows back, but they've only been given the short end of the stick by just having them make a very small cameo appearance.

I would either: Make Gokaiger at least between 60-65 episodes long just for them, or to cut back on the filler episodes that doesn't even move the plot at all for those tribute episodes.

 

[Sentaifan'07 Xman]

The only two problems I have with the series so far, are

1.) The villains. Very, very underwhelming. These are the same ones that made the 34 sentai teams sacrifice their powers? Get out of here. The only best villain was best Basco, & he's a secondary villain.

2.) J.A.K.Q., Denjiman, Sun Vulcan, Goggle V, Dynaman, Bioman, Changeman, Flashman, Maskman, Turboranger, Fiveman, & Zyuranger not receiving proper tribute episodes. WTF? I know that they at least managed to bring back the actors/actresses for those shows back, but they've only been given the short end of the stick by just having them make a very small cameo appearance.

I would either: Make Gokaiger at least between 60-65 episodes long just for them, or to cut back on the filler episodes that doesn't even move the plot at all for those tribute episodes.

For once, I am with you on the same page. Let's hope that they might fix that in the V-Cinemas.

 

[musashi03]

I loved Gokaiger, I loved the mecha (though I never really felt how important the other mecha vehicles (except red's) other than being the parts for Gokai-Oh), I loved the Grand Powers / Mecha Upgrades they get, though how they use them didn't make sense, I loved each member since as mentioned before, they did bring something new to the table. I hated Gai at first because he started off as annoying for me and didn't seem to deserve the powers of all previous 6th rangers since they're mostly badasses and Gai was far from it, but he grew on me when he started getting serious. I loved the tribute part of this show too, how they utilized former Sentai actors/actresses. And the best part of this show has got to be the fight scenes, I mean I'm a huge Rider fan, but the action scenes in Gokaiger was definitely superb, so props to the stunt and suit actors.

Now to the other side of the coin... Yeah, I agree that the enemy was very very very underwhelming... I've brought up the same issue in the main Gokaiger thread before, and as far as the discussion went, it seems like they did this so that it wouldn't outshine how badass the main Sentai roster was. It was more like a balancing-act since they still needed to add a lot of comedy without the expense of the main Sentai roster since they already have Don. It would have been great if the villains were at par with Goseiger villains, since it would be awesome if Marvelous faces off with Buraija for more than a movie or a set of episodes... But I guess the Sentai writers probably didn't want to throw it all-in for a single series, so that they won't run dry I guess. Another thing I didn't like was the illogical use of Ranger keys (Grand Power included)... Some made sense like when they needed to use a specific ability or weapon against an enemy, but mostly was just for show and for spamming... I guess the limited number of episodes are to blame with a bunch of powers to showcase. I just hoped they made each Grand Power have a unique ability other than looking simply like a basic attack. Magidragon's Magibind for example, was a wasted potential, I could see that they could have used it as something to capture a group of enemies and use a different Grand Power after to make it just a 1-hit kill, but it ended up just another basic attack.

Overall, I still loved Gokaigers, because the visual aspect of the show was superb which outweighs all my complaints about it for me... Seeing previous Sentai teams in a modern setting with awesome fight and action scenes are definitely what made Gokaiger really worth-it to watch for me.

 

[shuaib786]

I think if you're not a fan of Sentai, or you've never seen ANY of the previous series, it's a little meaningless to watch Gokaiger. you wouldn't understand the tribute eps or the why they're using certain Gokai Changes (they do provide a meaning in certain situations) etc. I don't see how guest roles are the main problem, because it's an ANNIVERSARY series.

while I agree Gokaiger still suffers the mid-series syndrome, the tribute eps pretty much made up for it because they were just fun to watch, unlike Shinkenger's spam-mecha-and-then-drag-the-storyline arc and Goseiger's Yuumajuu-is-the-only-worst-thing-about-Goseiger arc.

HELL YES THE FINALE WAS TOO RUSHED. so throughout the series, they couldn't defeat Insarn and that annoying Engrish-speaking alien, but it took them just one ep near the finale to put them both on a bus effortless? whaaat? the Emperor's defeat was more ridiculous than Doukoku's. not only Gai, but Hakase was really annoying too. up till now, the only Gokaiger that was well developed and grown to be more likeable IMO was Marvelous.

overall, I still enjoyed the series but I guess from my opinions written above, I enjoyed it just because I get to see the Legends returning and the older suits. :sweat: oh and as implied above, Marvelous is the only Gokaiger I like...

PS: Zangyack sucks, yes.

I agree almost everything that you said here. Yes the finale was rushed, because if they had a tribute episode for every sentai series and have an epic finale like having a 4-parter like they did in Goseiger. The series could of went to like 70 episodes, but I guess TOEI had to crack on with go-busters!

Marvellous was a great leader and for me, my favourite character too. The guy was a badass i mean he listened to no one. Personally though I think a good series is also determined by a good sentai leader/red ranger because they are in the centre throughout the whole series.

Zangyack did suck, but Basco made it up for me. It would of been cool if Basco killed the emperor to take control of zangyack at the end.

Also, it would of been better for the slightly older fans if they did add romance , it adds something more because in the past sentai series like jetman, Timeranger and etc it was a successful element in the series.

 

[Lynxara]

I can easily understand being disappointed by parts of the show, because there's certainly things I think the show should have handled better, but I've noticed a big turning on Gokaiger, even a hatred, that I find kind of baffling.

Eh, I can sorta see it. A lot of people watching Gokaiger cared more about the core characters than the anniversary stuff, especially on this forum. HJU's users skew young and I would bet most of our users haven't fully watched any shows older than, say, Gekiranger. That's just the nature of the English-speaking fandom, you get lots of churn in and out.

A lot of these users would defend perceived weaknesses in the show by swearing up and down that something awesome and epic would happen toward the end, on par with the Legend War. The more people complained about Warz Gil and the plot going nowhere, the more defenders swore the ending would be as mind-blowing as the show's beginning.

And, well, this didn't happen. Gokaiger's ending just isn't as good as its first episode. It's a perfectly good Sentai ending. It fit the show well and made sure the story hung together properly. Parts of it were even very touching. But it just wasn't the most badass thing ever, it didn't really deliver on the promise of that first episode, and nobody can pretend otherwise.

I think you saw a similar phenomena with Decade. That show's first couple of episodes were amazing. The next couple of episodes were pretty good. The ending was a bitter disappointment at the time, but hey, the movie's coming! The movie could be awesome and wrap everything up! And then it didn't, and people are still bitter about that.

 

[Jacky392000]

HJU's users skew young and I would bet most of our users haven't fully watched any shows older than, say, Gekiranger.

So. Fucking. True.