Why doesn't Funimation dub Kamen Rider/SS

[LaZerwolfX]

How did a Toshiki Inoue plotline infiltrate this thread?!

hahahahahaha

 

[Shynilyte]

i gotcha, yeah tokusatsu means special effects filming, i thought you were saying that thats all it takes to be a part of the genre, which would be preposterous

Um, dude, special effects is all that it takes for a show or movie to be considered tokusatsu. Look at James Ballard's post that I linked to twice already.

"Tokusatsu" just means "special effects" (short for "tokushu satsuei", which is literally "special photography").

"Tokusatsu" isn't just shows like Kamen Rider or Sentai, it's Godzilla, Star Wars, Jurassic Park or anything else that has special effects.

The only factor that makes something count as tokusatsu is the use of special effects. Being called tokusatsu does not say anything about any particular show, besides the fact that it uses special effects. You sound like you're putting too much stock in the term, as if there was some sort of standard for a show to be called tokusatsu. If you look at the Wikipedia article, pretty much any show with special effects is considered tokusatsu.

The Japanese market regards several British and American live-action series dubbed into Japanese as tokusatsu programs. These include Doctor Who, Lost in Space, Smallville, Wonder Woman, MacGyver, Stargate SG-1, Battlestar Galactica, Red Dwarf, The Greatest American Hero, Knight Rider, and even puppet shows such as Thunderbirds and Thomas the Tank Engine

 

[Midori Ken]

Thomas the Tank Engine.

Yes.

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[LaZerwolfX]

Um, dude, special effects is all that it takes for a show or movie to be considered tokusatsu. Look at James Ballard's post that I linked to twice already.


The only factor that makes something count as tokusatsu is the use of special effects. Being called tokusatsu does not say anything about any particular show, besides the fact that it uses special effects. You sound like you're putting too much stock in the term, as if there was some sort of standard for a show to be called tokusatsu. If you look at the Wikipedia article, pretty much any show with special effects is considered tokusatsu.

i would argue that with plenty of foreign shows, tokusatsu seems more used as a way to classify foreign shows using a genre title that Japanese people are already familiar with. and there is a certain standard, its not a super concrete or restrictive standard but there is a standard to a very minor degree. i feel that over time tokusatsu has developed its own sensibilities and culture.

 

[Shynilyte]

Yeah, tokusatsu has developed some sort of cultural identity and style of its own. But shows can deviate from that and still be called tokusatsu. What I'm trying to say is, Japanese people use the term "tokusatsu" for anything with special effects, not just Henshin heroes and the like. I can see that there are things common for tokusatsu, it's just that those things (transformation words, signature battle poses, etc) don't really decide what the word itself means.

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I think I've seen that somewhere before.

 

[LaZerwolfX]

Yeah, tokusatsu has developed some sort of cultural identity and style of its own. But shows can deviate from that and still be called tokusatsu. What I'm trying to say is, Japanese people use the term "tokusatsu" for anything with special effects, not just Henshin heroes and the like. I can see that there are things common for tokusatsu, it's just that those things (transformation words, signature battle poses, etc) don't really decide what the word itself means.

this is more or less what I've been getting at the whole time. Good to know we're on the same page, apparently we both just needed to make sure we figured that out in the most roundabout way possible. hahahaha