Why doesn't Funimation dub Kamen Rider/SS

[Bad Wolf]

being a japanese show with special effects is the bare minimum a film/series would have to apply to...

um I'm gonna say no.

It seems to me that you think Tokusatsu means Henshin Hero, which is a sub genre of Tokusatsu.

 

[KingRanger]

um I'm gonna say no.

It seems to me that you think Tokusatsu means Henshin Hero, which is a sub genre of Tokusatsu.

So yes shows like Star Trek and Supernatural and Doctor Who fall under the category of Toku, but in the same way the little mermaid and Ben 10 are Anime.

Anime and cartoons are the same thing. Not sure what you are trying to say here about that.

 

[Mr. Underachiever]

um I'm gonna say no.

It seems to me that you think Tokusatsu means Henshin Hero, which is a sub genre of Tokusatsu.

So yes shows like Star Trek and Supernatural and Doctor Who fall under the category of Toku, but in the same way the little mermaid and Ben 10 are Anime.

As in, they're not?

 

[Bad Wolf]

Anime and cartoons are the same thing. Not sure what you are trying to say here about that.

As in, they're not?

re-reading it didn't make much sense to me either:sweat: I guess i just derped.

I must have misread something in the last page, it looked like to me henshinthekid was trying to say that Tokusatsu was only about Monsters and Superheroes.

 

[LaZerwolfX]

re-reading it didn't make much sense to me either:sweat: I guess i just derped.

I must have misread something in the last page, it looked like to me henshinthekid was trying to say that Tokusatsu was only about Monsters and Superheroes.

i guess its possible to read it that way, all I'm trying to say is that toku is more than just a show with special effects and that to be toku it requires other attributes otherwise anything with special effects would be toku and that is both not true and stupid

 

[Shynilyte]

Um, check one of the posts I linked to. Tokusatsu means, special effects. There is literally no other definition. If you look at the Wikipedia article, the term tokusatsu is applied to pretty much anything with special effects.

Once again: yes, tokusatsu are special effects shows from Japan, BUT tokusatsu series/film have a distinctive and iconic style that produces a one of a kind final product. Not only did Japan pioneer the genre, they also still do it better than anyone else. A number of studios world wide have tried to make their own Toku, and no one even comes close, there has to be more to it than just adding special effects to a show, i refuse to believe that deep down its that simple.

You sound like you're using the term "tokusatsu" to refer to nothing but shows like Sentai and Kamen Rider. But no, the most successful shows of the industry do not decide what other shows can count. Shows can have different styles of stunts, filming, etc and still count as tokusatsu. For example, Mega Monster Battle had a brand new method of filming unlike all other shows, but it's still called tokusatsu.

A show can still count as tokusatsu even if the hero doesn't yell transformation words, and the monsters don't make sparks every time they're hit with a weapon. Example: Garo.

Perhaps you're misunderstanding me. I'm not suggesting that the shows are no more than the use of speciall effects, but the term tokusatsu has no more meaning itself than the use of special effects. The term "tokusatsu" carries no more meaning than that. Anything particular about the actual shows is due to the shows themselves doing their thing rather than the fact that they're tokusatsu.

 

[Psychotime]

Giving an arbitrary and shallow definition to the genre is just as bad as the people who think anime has a default "style" that excludes other works.

 

[LaZerwolfX]

Um, check one of the posts I linked to. Tokusatsu means, special effects. There is literally no other definition. If you look at the Wikipedia article, the term tokusatsu is applied to pretty much anything with special effects.



You sound like you're using the term "tokusatsu" to refer to nothing but shows like Sentai and Kamen Rider. But no, the most successful shows of the industry do not decide what other shows can count. Shows can have different styles of stunts, filming, etc and still count as tokusatsu. For example, Mega Monster Battle had a brand new method of filming unlike all other shows, but it's still called tokusatsu.

A show can still count as tokusatsu even if the hero doesn't yell transformation words, and the monsters don't make sparks every time they're hit with a weapon. Example: Garo.

Perhaps you're misunderstanding me. I'm not suggesting that the shows are no more than the use of speciall effects, but the term tokusatsu has no more meaning itself than the use of special effects. The term "tokusatsu" carries no more meaning than that. Anything particular about the actual shows is due to the shows themselves doing their thing rather than the fact that they're tokusatsu.

i was only using kamen rider and super sentai as examples. and while garo doesn't have sparking monsters and henshin yells, it still shares plenty of similarities with sentai/kamen rider. ah, i gotcha, yeah tokusatsu means special effects filming, i thought you were saying that thats all it takes to be a part of the genre, which would be preposterous and obviously each toku series is going to have its own distinctions but all i was just saying that they share common elements that while reoccurring in toku are still distinctly toku

 

[LaZerwolfX]

um I'm gonna say no.

It seems to me that you think Tokusatsu means Henshin Hero, which is a sub genre of Tokusatsu.

you're obviously taking what i said out of context as thats not what i was saying at all

 

[Midori Ken]

you're obviously taking what i said out of context as thats not what i was saying at all

How did a Toshiki Inoue plotline infiltrate this thread?!