Osama Bin Laden finally dead.

New stealth helicopter was probably used for the Bin Laden raid?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4291290...n/t/secret-stealth-chopper-compound-wreckage/

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Awesome... :buttrock:
New, secret stealth tech... :buttrock: Awesome.

Well, it looks like reports of the "firefight" at bin Laden's compound were overblown.

Bin Laden 'firefight': Only one man was armed
Four of the five people shot to death in the operation that killed Osama bin Laden, including the al-Qaida leader himself, were unarmed and never fired a shot, U.S. officials told NBC News on Wednesday — an account that differs markedly from the Obama administration's original claims that the Navy SEALs came under heavy small-arms fire in a prolonged firefight.

According to the officials' account, as the first SEAL team moved into the compound, they took small-arms fire from the guest house in the compound. The SEALs returned fire, killing bin Laden's courier and the courier's wife, who died in the crossfire.

The second SEAL team entered the first floor of the main residence and could see a man standing in the dark with one hand behind his back. Fearing he was hiding a weapon, the SEALs shot and killed the lone man, who turned out to be unarmed.

As the U.S. commandos moved through the house, they found several stashes of weapons and barricades, as if the residents were prepared for a violent and lengthy standoff — which never materialized.

The SEALs then made their way up a staircase, where they ran into one of bin Laden's sons on the way down. The Americans immediately shot and killed the son, who was also unarmed.

Once on the third floor, the commandos threw open the door to bin Laden's bedroom. One of bin Laden's wives rushed toward the NAVY SEAL in the door, who shot her in the leg.

Then, without hesitation, the same commando turned his gun on bin Laden, standing in what appeared to be pajamas, and fire two quick shots, one to the chest and one to the head. Although there were weapons in that bedroom, Bin Laden was also unarmed at the time he was shot.

Instead of a chaotic firefight, the U.S. officials said, the American commando assault was a precision operation, with SEALs moving carefully through the compound, room to room, floor to floor.

In fact, most of the operation was spent in what the military calls “exploiting the site,” gathering up the computers, hard drives, cellphones and files that could provide valuable intelligence on al Qaeda operatives and potential operations worldwide.

The U.S. officials describing the operation said the SEALs carefully gathered up 22 women and children to ensure they were not harmed. Some of the women were put in “flexi-cuffs” the plastic straps used to bind someone’s hands at the wrists, and left them for Pakistani security forces to discover.

But despite the fact that only one of those killed was armed, everyone was considered a serious threat, the U.S. officials said.

Accounts of the operation had varied widely in the first few days after it was completed.

White House officials initially suggested bin Laden had been holding a gun and perhaps firing at U.S. forces. There was a report that he used his wife as a human shield.

The Associated Press quoted U.S. officials on Tuesday as saying that the SEALs shot him after they saw him appear to lunge for a weapon.

CIA Director Leon Panetta told "PBS NewsHour" that bin Laden "made some threatening moves" that "represented a clear threat to our guys" but was not more specific about what the unarmed terrorist did as the commandos engaged others at the compound and burst into his room.
The precision and efficiency of this operation defies belief for me. Hell, even the Pakistanis didn't know they were there! U.S. specials ops is a scary and bad ass thing.
 
Hell, even the Pakistanis didn't know they were there!

They say they don't, but that strikes me as pretty unlikely. Bin Laden was holed up in an upper-class neighborhood where Pakistani generals like to retire. He was apparently only a few miles away from the Pakistani equivalent of West Point.

It would be amazing incompetence for the Pakistanis to have a guy like Bin Laden in that part of their backyard and seriously not know. It seems far more likely to me that somebody knew and didn't mind harboring him.

US relations with Pakistan are probably going to get worse before they get better.
 
Obama's Last video:

NSFW. Very graphic.
[HIDE][ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbk8pq2LroI"]YouTube - Osama Bin Laden's Final Video[/ame][/HIDE]
 
They say they don't, but that strikes me as pretty unlikely. Bin Laden was holed up in an upper-class neighborhood where Pakistani generals like to retire. He was apparently only a few miles away from the Pakistani equivalent of West Point.

It would be amazing incompetence for the Pakistanis to have a guy like Bin Laden in that part of their backyard and seriously not know. It seems far more likely to me that somebody knew and didn't mind harboring him.

US relations with Pakistan are probably going to get worse before they get better.
Oh, I meant knowing about the U.S. raid. I definitely believe that at least some Pakistani officials knew of bin Laden's presence in the country. You're right about U.S. - Pakistan relations though.

I saw this article the other day about U.S. lobbyists helping to make the case that Pakistan had no knowledge of bin Laden's whereabouts.
US lobbyists help Pakistan deny it aided bin Laden

As noted in the article though, that particular lobbying firm has been working with Libya since 2008 so it's nothing new.
 

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