[Cartoon] My Little Pony Talkback Thread

[KouAidou]

No, perspective is needed since people are rightfully amazed by how good it is, but at the same time a lot of them, especially the men, have nothing to compare it too. The show has a serious fault, which is the moral driven story mandate. This is a killer for a lot of shows and to the staff's credit they worked wonders with it around their necks, that said it holds back the show.

Er, how is that a fault, exactly? Maybe that's not the type of show you like but it's not objectively wrong for a show to do that...

 

[Pixelphile]

Yeah, even the most "hardcore" of shows have historically taught morals both obvious and foggy. Shoot, The Boondocks teaches morals (at least it used to). Pixel is also confused beyond confused.

 

[KingRanger]

No, perspective is needed since people are rightfully amazed by how good it is, but at the same time a lot of them, especially the men, have nothing to compare it too. The show has a serious fault, which is the moral driven story mandate. This is a killer for a lot of shows and to the staff's credit they worked wonders with it around their necks, that said it holds back the show.

I think you need to take a "I need to stop taking things so seriously" pill about this.:anime:

 

[Lynxara]

Whether or not a show has a moral doesn't have anything to do with whether or not it's good.

You can argue that the morals are unconvincing or too obvious, but a moral is a standard element of family entertainment.

 

[Blue Saint]

There is a difference between being taught a moral and having it direct the story. Moral driven storytelling is a problem since even in the hands of good writers it limits what can be done, since above all else by the end of the story the moral has to be addressed. This is a problem since it speaks down to the audience, instead of them being allowed to draw their own conclusions.

 

[Pixelphile]

There is a difference between being taught a moral and having it direct the story. Moral driven storytelling is a problem since even in the hands of good writers it limits what can be done, since above all else by the end of the story the moral has to be addressed. This is a problem since it speaks down to the audience, instead of them being allowed to draw their own conclusions.

False, and I'm going to put forth that a lot of your favorite pieces of fiction are moral-based storytelling and you might not even know it.

I don't even have to know what they are, either!

 

[Lynxara]

Moral driven storytelling is a problem since even in the hands of good writers it limits what can be done, since above all else by the end of the story the moral has to be addressed.

Okay, the bolded bit? That's clearly personal opinion, not critical analysis. I mean, your argument would mean that you think A.A. Milne and Shel Silverstein were, objectively, terrible writers working in a terrible format. I seriously doubt this is the case.

It's perfectly okay to include a moral in a story as part of an expression of theme. You can criticize how it's done but not simply that it is being done. Morals lessons are the backbone of children's lit.

 

[Blue Saint]

Okay, the bolded bit? That's clearly personal opinion, not critical analysis. I mean, your argument would mean that you think A.A. Milne and Shel Silverstein were, objectively, terrible writers working in a terrible format. I seriously doubt this is the case.

It's perfectly okay to include a moral in a story as part of an expression of theme. You can criticize how it's done but not simply that it is being done. Morals lessons are the backbone of children's lit.

Let me restate, what I mean by moral driven story telling is a story that spends the story moving towards the "this what I have learned today" moment. I have no problem with morality been expressed through story, I have issue with any audience being talked down to.

 

[KingRanger]

What cracks me up is this is a thread about a fun show like the new MLP, and it got all serious with talk of morals and ****. I am laughing my ass off here. :laugh:

 

[KouAidou]

I just don't know what to do with any of this.