Manga Vs Western Comic

[Midori Ken]

This discussion would have been a lot more fun to read if I didn't have to look up so many words from one side, and fill in the punctuation for the other...:redface2:

 

[Bennu]

It's a tie for me, both are superior to the other under their merits.

That being said, Superman is my favorite comic book hero.

As for Indy books, Jeff Smith's Bone is awesome.

 

[Lynxara]

This discussion would have been a lot more fun to read if I didn't have to look up so many words from one side, and fill in the punctuation for the other...:redface2:

My embiggened vocabulary is perfectly cromulent!

 

[KouAidou]

My embiggened vocabulary is perfectly cromulent!

He was filling in punctuation for you. Why!! don't, you... ~know~ how, to;; punctuate/?/

 

[Bouken Green]

I wasn't talking about creating iconic characters, which isn't what comics is about. I detest the term "iconic"; all it really means is "old and highly marketable." I was talking about creating works of true transcendent art, a process far more complex than simply creating an exploitable property.

(Though as far "iconic" **** goes, show me the mangaka whose output is on par with Jack Kirby at his creative peak in terms of sheer number of memorable projects launched-- if you can. I think Go Nagai is as close as you get and even he falls short. Ishinomori doesn't hold a candle to Kirby.)

As far as serious comics goes, the Western indy comics scene kicks the **** out of the gekiga scene in terms of quality and originality of output. Consumer manga comics do not merit serious discussion anymore than Western superhero monthlies do; they are just as mired in thoughtless formula and mindless exploitation.

Talking about light novels and anime is totally irrelevant to a discussion of manga. The mangaka of my acquaintance would be insulted to see their work defended not with reference to great, transcendent manga like Glass Mask or Buddha.

No, to defend manga all you talk about a moderately thoughtful moe franchise that came from light novels, which sure as hell aren't manga, and Gundam, which is anime's poster child for selling out. Christ, Tomino's not even the best in his genre, let alone an artist. At least bring up Leiji Matsumoto, who was actually a mangaka. Even Monkey Punch would be more respectable!

All comics are the same? Please. Tell me how Fun Home is like The Boys is like Mouse Guard is like Walking Dead is like Asterios Polyp is like Sandman is like From Hell is like Bone is like Pogo is like Strangers In Paradise is like Grendel is like Nexus is like Dork Tower. Really. I'd love to see that rationale.

I'm going to regret asking this, but Who is Jack Kirby? Heck, I have no idea of most of the names that have been posted on this thread.

 

[garfield15]

My embiggened vocabulary is perfectly cromulent!

Be not vitriolic with ambitious lyric in this location of public gossiping.

Anyway, is this thread going anywhere but south at this point?

 

[Demi-Fiend]

I'm going to regret asking this, but Who is Jack Kirby? Heck, I have no idea of most of the names that have been posted on this thread.

http://www.google.com/

 

[Skiks]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Kirby
Most famous for working with Stan Lee on some rather famous creations.
Anyways continuity issues and retcons do not just plague comics over here. There are very famous manga works that have abused this issue too.

 

[yuzulon]

for me its both

 

[HaiTien78]

Both of them are exactly the same medium, just different stories and hemispheres.