Kamen Rider Kiva - Final Thoughts for the year and look back

Final Kiva thoughts:​

Pros:

- Kiva brought the franchise more or less back to the Kuuga-Blade style of things. After a three-year low point (Which is not to say Hibiki, Kabuto and Den-O were bad. Please don’t make that assumption. All three shows have their merits, and I like several things about them. But in comparison to previous Rider shows, they simply don’t measure up) the style Toshiki Inoue brought to Kiva was a welcome sight.

- Characters in general. Kiva is the first show since Agito where I don’t dislike any of the characters. Everyone I either like or am neutral toward.

- Kurenai Wataru. People say he’s Nogami Ryotaro redux but he’s more like a negative Tsugami Shouichi. I was neutral toward him as a character, but damnit if his story wasn’t one of the best in NewGen. It echoed Black in being a ‘sins of the father’ tale. We have a mongrel halfbreed named Wataru, the result of an affair between the human Kurenai Otoya and Maya, Queen of the Fangires. Two completely different civilizations/cultures. Otoya is otherwise a good man. His one sin was to get involved with a demon woman and sire a child together. His lack of foresight is the cause for Wataru’s suffering as an adult. Neither human nor Fangire will ever accept him. Taiga even tried to use him under the guise of a loving brother. His one lover is taken from him in a twist of fate. He doesn’t understand why he fights, but does it simply out of instinct. He’s a shut in, an outcast in the community, and quite alone in the world. A man caught in the middle of the war between his two peoples. All in all, a very Rider-esque story. It belongs on the pedestal with the stories of Agito’s Ashihara Ryo and Kabuto’s Tendou Souji, among others.

- Designs and lore. Excellent Rider and villain costumes, and a most interesting lore of the Demon Races, their genealogies, politics, and histories. In several ways, quite reminiscent of Devil May Cry 3.

- Great soundtrack. This was the most songs Rider has had since Kuuga. It’s nice when tokus get lots of songs.


Cons:

- The horror motif was wasted. There weren’t even any night battles, and that’s just the tip of the iceberg! One thing that really worked in past shows like Kuuga, Agito and Ryuki’s favor was the use of a third party. Kuuga-Agito had the police, and Ryuki had ORE Journal. These shows gave the audience an alternate perspective to the usual hero-villain point of views. And it helped those shows greatly.

Kiva, since it deals with horror, could have really used this third party, or at least something like it. For example, urban legends of monsters who attack in the night, and a masked hero who fights them. Remember the scene in the previews of Wataru striding away from MachineKiba in the dark? What a great image! And yet things like that weren’t used.

- The Checkmate Four. Individually, they’re interesting characters with interesting plots around them. But their usage was most underwhelming. The one time we see them together was essentially irrelevant, since Rook dies soon afterward. There was no cooperation between them, no interactions other than Bishop and Maya (Speaking of which, we never learn the names of Rook, Bishop and ’86 King! Only Maya and Taiga get names!). And if that’s not bad enough, Rook didn’t even do anything relevant on screen throughout his run! He just appears sporadically in both time periods. And Bishop barely does anything in ’86 either! What the hell were you thinking, Inoue?! The Checkmates as a group were a disappointment to be sure.

(And I might as well further add that that Ryo Itoya and Kurosawa were wasted as well. The former was set up to be a Bat Grongi-like character only to be killed off without doing anything significant. The latter’s supposed to be Taiga’s guard appointed by Maya, yet he only appears once in ’86. When ’86 King dies, Taiga is given to Shima. Where is Kurosawa?! Off fighting the Gozma again?)

- Nago Keisuke. I like the guy. A lot of his moments in a group setting were hilarious since they reminded me of whenever I get together with my own friends. But his characterization was mediocre at best, terrible at worst. He is supposed to be an otherwise good man with a thirst for justice, but has a rigid, black-and-white view of the world that even turns him against his own family. Now that’s a backstory rich for exploitation. But did it happen? Not really. First he comes off as a pompous jerk to so many fans due to a poor script, then a psychopath thanks to Shoji Yonemura (master of the Kabuto debacle), and then some pitiful caricature of himself once angry Kengo comes in. Only recently has he regained some of his former dignity. This is not the way to write a character! Keisuke really needed more focus and integration into the plot.

- The Arms Monsters. The thing that made the trio great was their unique position in the story. Unlike the Imajins, they don’t switch to the good guys’ side on a whim. They’re out for themselves, and will use humans only to extract revenge from the Fangires. They’re no friends of humanity.

Jiro did a great deal in the first half of the show, but then got put to the side afterward. Riki didn’t do that much, and Ramon did absolutely nothing. They needed more involvement.

- Time travel. Kiva is not Ryuki, Kabuto or Den-O. Like I said above, it’s a ‘sins of the father’ story. It dually tells how the events of the past affected the events of the present. Granted, there were some good things that came from it. But for characters to suddenly wander between the past and the present sort of mitigates the effect of the story. Sometimes I get the feeling things like Wataru meeting Otoya post-Mio’s death were contrived solely to have a Kiva Emperor/Dark Kiva duel.

Time travel worked in Ryuki, Kabuto and Den-O because their stories made it fit. Kiva’s does not.

- Lack of bike usage. True, it’s a flaw of all the post-Blade shows so it isn’t that special. But it still needs to be mentioned. I’m usually not a fan of heavyweight, Harley-type bikes but damnit if Wataru, the half-demon who slays demons, riding MachineKiba didn’t evoke a great romantic image. And romanticism, naturally, is important in superhero shows. IXAlion was only brought out three times in the whole year! What the hell is the point of Toei commissioning the creation of these items when they don’t even use them?! In a show that’s about a bike-riding hero no less! (I might as well throw in PoweredIXA, Bron Booster and ShooDran in here as well. The former doesn’t even get a prop like Kuuga’s Goram did? Just bad CGI??) I don’t understand that. I don’t get it.

- Forms. Absolutely beautiful designs, but mediocre usage. Not only are the Garuru and Bashaa finishers used only once, all three forms are tossed aside once Emperor debuts. And even there we have the lack of Bashaa Fever. Emperor Form frankly should have been brought out later to allow the other Forms some more screentime. It’s a shame such excellent costumes and props were so underused.


Overall, my stance of Kiva: Definitely could have been better. But even so, it’s the best Rider show in years. I hope Decade can improve on Kiva’s successes. If not, then there’s always this Kamen Rider G special coming out.
 
So is Kiva the Anti-Faiz?

Anyway, the plus side...Nago "evolved"...not meeting the fate of either Hajime or Kusaka. In the end, Nago got the girl. :laugh:

Nago = The Han Solo of Riders?


...to be continued...in Decade...hopefully. :laugh:


PS: The bad part about Riki and Ramon is that they were mainly used as comedy relief; you saw Riki kill someone, but Ramon barely did anything at all. And when the two were on screen, it was mainly towards the comedic aspect. Also, the Ryo the Spider could've been a little more batshit crazy than he was depicted in the series and they should have allowed him to live long; like become Bishop's secret right hand man to attempt to kill Mio. The way Mio's death was presented was plausible, but a bit lame. Bishop could've just wounded Mio with Ryo getting the scraps.......chu
 
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Alas, this series seems to suffer from problems.
I suspect Toei took on a story they could not handle.

I wonder though, about certain things.

Megumi's dad-was it all just audience mishype?Maybe they never intended to answer that.

The direction of the story- toward the end-they kind of building toward the fight between Taiga and Wataru,one to the death, so what happened?

Wataru development as a musician-So what was his own violin he was supposed to create?Did he make it in the end?

i'll give mah full review later.
 
Kiva sort comeback to more serious plot, but the storyline is very loose and doesn't hold on much with many scenes to seem boring and nothing to do with plot.
 
Kiva Review pt 1

Kaijin
In kamen rider kaijin, i look for 5 things

Origin-How are Fangires made?Who created them?Any history at least?

Suit design-Not very scary really, but their fangs work.But here, really, they start reusing body parts.

Lifestyle-Energy fangs are fine as a means of killing.But wait,lets see, suddenly, we are told fangires dont need to suck life energy to live?This totally went against the concept of vampiric.I admit there was example like this in Blood+, but this isnt the main point.The point is, if there is no driving motive to kill humans, what threat are they?


Hiearchery-The Checkmate Four are in charge of the entire race.

Concept-So whats with the stained glass and Fangires?Its a design thing by the producers, but at least tell us a bit about it.
Sabbats.We at least want to know what are they made of or what are they.

Secondary kaijin
Wolfens,Franken and Mermen,we hardly know anything about them.
Criteria is lesser for kaijin in this category.

Origin-So where do they come from?

Motive
-actually slightly revealed, they treat humans like cattle and tools.Acceptable.
 
Though I think the ending was a bit rushed, and the lack of a decent backstory for Ramon kinda hurt, Kiva was still the ass-kickingest rider series I've ever seen.

The finale includes all the great things I've seen in past rider shows: a big fight, an improbable rescue, a happy ending for someone, and a henshin parade, including a future rider.

Now I want a high res of that last shot for my wallpaper.
 
Kiva Review pt 1

Kaijin
In kamen rider kaijin, i look for 5 things

Origin-How are Fangires made?Who created them?Any history at least?

Suit design-Not very scary really, but their fangs work.But here, really, they start reusing body parts.

Lifestyle-Energy fangs are fine as a means of killing.But wait,lets see, suddenly, we are told fangires dont need to suck life energy to live?This totally went against the concept of vampiric.I admit there was example like this in Blood+, but this isnt the main point.The point is, if there is no driving motive to kill humans, what threat are they?


Hiearchery-The Checkmate Four are in charge of the entire race.

Concept-So whats with the stained glass and Fangires?Its a design thing by the producers, but at least tell us a bit about it.
Sabbats.We at least want to know what are they made of or what are they.

Secondary kaijin
Wolfens,Franken and Mermen,we hardly know anything about them.
Criteria is lesser for kaijin in this category.

Origin-So where do they come from?

Motive
-actually slightly revealed, they treat humans like cattle and tools.Acceptable.

Wise words! rtys! I liked Kiva a lot but now after the half of the series I start to realize what was missing from it!

I guess Den-O has dulled our tastes for Kamen Rider. Sorta like blinded our judgement. If I was from the past, like say before 2006. I would not like Kiva like I do now.
 
Kiva Review Pt 2

Main Characters

Kurenai Wataru
Development-
Character- He changed from a recluse to a man, fine, but at times i wish would not run away so many times.You think by now,he would realise that running away never solves anything.Him learning how to interact with people was okay though.
As a musician-Sadly, the ball was simply dropped.Oomura could only help him so much.The hint Oomura gave that he should create a violin for himself was wasted in the end.We never got to see his own violin.

Romance-Eventually the young man gets a girlfriend, but is stuck between letting his half brother have her.Its done quite well.

Otoya
Development-
Character-He usually has a happy go lucky attitude, but underneath it, its also a serious man.He is fine really for his character,in fact its unique as i have not seen it in Kamen rider before.However, we are given almost no indication of his past,which is ridiculous.This is like the first time ive seen a story where the hero has no past.
As a Musician-Otoya is more developed, but he still seeks a violin for himself.This eventually became the common point between him and Maya.He gets a violin of his own.

Romance-Hmm, there was not enough screentime for more romance really.Would have liked to see more.
 
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[HIDE]i feel that it's really not fair to compare Kiva with Den-o..

what's den-o..? Gathering of gay partners..

and Wataru is never like Ryotarou in anyway.. Wataru is brave.. he's just shy.. he have the guts to stand and fight with the Fangire.. unlike Ryotarou.. do nothing but cry and cry like a sissy..

he's just a rather negative Tsugami Shoichi.. he grew to become a man.. a hero.. a king.. one who is fit to be kiva.. he don't just shed tears just because imajin left him..

Most importantly.. Kiva don't really need to rely on his monster to possess him.. only occassionally.. while Den-o..? Without imajin.. Ryotarou is just a piece of ****..

Like what Black fang said.. Kiva has it's flaw.. i agree.. a few introduction of good characters but was ended too fast.. and also over-reliance of Emperor form..

And most importantly.. the designs.. from monsters to the riders.. to kiva and it's form.. i think it owns all.. if you compare with Agito or Kuuga.. ya.. frankly.. it still lacks a little.. but compare to other kamen rider series over the yrs.. it's definitely the best..

we don't need bra visors to act like kamen rider..

It's definitely one of the best ones in Heisei KR history.. joining the list of Kuuga and Agito.. IMO..

Not to mention the ending rocks big time.. what's Den-o..?

As for go-onger.. Gekiranger had set a massive standard.. Go-onger couldn't hit that standard at all.. not a crap show.. but not my taste..

[/HIDE] Can you not say anything needless offensive about Den-O? Seriously, "they're gay, he's a piece of ****"! You don't need to say it all the time because I really don't care to read it.
 

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