Kamen Rider Decade rumor/picture thread

ShinmeiSuzaku said:

Yeah, reading the Spoiler Filed Igadevil review of the film and having finished decade yesterday, the film does seem more AU than anything.
At the end of Amazon world they do show Dai-Shocker Castle, and in the Rider War world we also see Tsukasa walking towards the Castle, but it seems to not really mean much. They don't even mention the events of the movie within the series. The Last world Pretty much explains it, Dai-Shocker is nothing, they arent important because Decade is the real enemy.

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The primary purpose of "All Riders vs. Dai-Shocker" was to explain Tsukasa's origin, which was that he was the leader of Dai-Shocker...........thus is the reason why Decade is regarded as "The Destroyer." So it's impossible for this movie to be AU because it explains the main character's origin

They don't even mention the events of the movie within the series.

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People seem to forget it, but the events of the Den-O movie weren't explained either. The portrait to the Kabuto World dropped, then we got Sieg out of nowhere and in the next episode no one mentioned anything and they were already in the Kabuto World without Sieg.

For All Riders, we had Daishocker's castle rising, then the portrait to the Rider War World dropping and in the next episode "Daishocker" somehow became only Apollogeist (even though, one episode before, it was a multi-universal organization that had conquered an entire world).

big_j_ny said:

The primary purpose of "All Riders vs. Dai-Shocker" was to explain Tsukasa's origin, which was that he was the leader of Dai-Shocker...........thus is the reason why Decade is regarded as "The Destroyer." So it's impossible for this movie to be AU because it explains the main character's origin

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So Did Kabuto's Movie, on how Tendou got his Belt...but they gave a seperate reason in the series. Decade could be the same and the new Movie gives different reasons.

I wonder the December movie is filmed yet or perhaps the 15 seconds teaser was just promotional clip Toei made. I hope more people return to reprise their role in December.

NeonZ said:

People seem to forget it, but the events of the Den-O movie weren't explained either. The portrait to the Kabuto World dropped, then we got Sieg out of nowhere and in the next episode no one mentioned anything and they were already in the Kabuto World without Sieg.

For All Riders, we had Daishocker's castle rising, then the portrait to the Rider War World dropping and in the next episode "Daishocker" somehow became only Apollogeist (even though, one episode before, it was a multiuniversal organization that had conquered an entire world).

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But in the Rider War world we see the Castle perfectly intact, But according to Igadevils spoilers, the castle was completely destroyed.

ShinmeiSuzaku said:

But in the Rider War world we see the Castle perfectly intact, But according to Igadevils spoilers, the castle was completely destroyed.

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I noticed that too, maybe it was just a different castle? It doesn't seem to be such a stretch. Even with the castle there, Apollogeist still was operating by himself. If the movie isn't in continuity, what happened to Daishocker? Why did Apollo Geist need to resurrect and create a bunch of monsters?

NeonZ said:

I noticed that too, maybe it was just a different castle? It doesn't seem to be such a stretch. Even with the castle there, Apollogeist still was operating by himself. If the movie isn't in continuity, what happened to Daishocker? Why did Apollo Geist need to resurrect and create a bunch of monsters?

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Regardless of whether we disagree how "All Riders" fits into the Decade continuity, it can be agreed upon that "All Riders vs. Dai-Shocker" is CANON. There is no denying that.........Dai-Shocker would have never been in the TV series if the movie was a non-canon Alternate plotline/ending. Not to mention they had the Shocker grunts in Amazon World, that basically proves that "All Riders" is part of the series plotline.

And c'mon, the "DCD" in the Dai-Shocker logo on the castle that keeps randomly appearing in the last 3 episodes of Decade kinda proves that the movie is canon. If the tv series "Dai-Shocker" was suppose to be different from the movie's "Dai-Shocker," then that "DCD" would have never been seen in the TV series version of the Dai-Shocker logo because that basically states that Decade was the original leader of Dai-Shocker. That's basic concrete proof

big_j_ny said:

Regardless of whether we disagree how "All Riders" fits into the Decade continuity, it can be agreed upon that "All Riders vs. Dai-Shocker" is CANON. There is no denying that.........Dai-Shocker would have never been in the TV series if the movie was a non-canon Alternate plotline/ending. Not to mention they had the Shocker grunts in Amazon World, that basically proves that "All Riders" is part of the series plotline.

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I expect there might be some plotholes one way or another considering the movie and the tv show, but it probably will fit into continuity when all is said and done (I don't think they'll introduce a new backstory for Tsukasa in the new movie).

aniking_8 said:

I wonder the December movie is filmed yet or perhaps the 15 seconds teaser was just promotional clip Toei made. I hope more people return to reprise their role in December.

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I hope they don't pull a Kiva on us, Kiva's first movie promo was all lies!

NeonZ said:

I expect there might be some plotholes one way or another considering the movie and the tv show, but it probably will fit into continuity when all is said and done (I don't think they'll introduce a new backstory for Tsukasa in the new movie).

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Pretty much.......Inoue and Yonemura both get the blame for these plotholes. We all know Inoue's history in terms of giving Rider series plotholes (look @ Kiva.......jesus christ at the plotholes that still linger), but Yonemura's history with creating plotholes out of the ending arcs of Kamen Rider series is just as bad. Kamen Rider Kabuto's ending arc is the perfect example, considering it had absolutely no consistency with the rest of the episodes before it. I really can't explain the full details of how Yonemura pulled a WTF with the Kabuto ending arc.........but by the time I was done the entire Kabuto series, I had myself saying "WTF" about the last 3 episodes.