Death Penalty For Rebellous Teens

Ziginz Zegell said:

So something like Elric of Melnibone, only with a happier ending? :laugh:

Okay maybe that wasn't funny...still.

Wouldn't the Thule Society be proof that Hitler may or may not have had some believe in spiritualisim? I think it is clear that the man was willing to do whatever it took to gain power, even digging up mandrakes out of people's back yards. Then maybe he didn't believe any of it, but he knew people would.

I should use the spear of longinus in more stories. It is a really fun artifact to play with...that isn't sacrilege right?

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Who?... will look up after Arrow. And, yeah, I forgot about Hitler. If it isn't obvious yet, I have a difficult time keeping lists of things straight. In fact, I'm not even sure if Spiritualism counts as an actual religion, unless you count Scientology or Pentacostals...

Also, I think true blasphemy has to do with intent, so no.

As rule of thumb for how fucked up the books are, the first thing you see the bad guy in the first book do is kidnap & brainwash a little boy, then murder him by pouring molten lead down his throat. He then proceeds to summon his soul from the underworld to use as a way to travel through a magical barrier without getting killed. Not to mention the author is harder to understand than Nolan sometimes. I simplified all the philosophies, they were originally more cryptiic & half of them were in code.

It, I suppose, calms down a bit after book two. But the reason I like them so much is because I really relate to the main cast of protagonists (the books are excellent character dramas, on par with The Walking Dead)

Shogun_Master said:

Who?... will look up after Arrow. And, yeah, I forgot about Hitler. If it isn't obvious yet, I have a difficult time keeping lists of things straight. In fact, I'm not even sure if Spiritualism counts as an actual religion, unless you count Scientology or Pentacostals...

Also, I think true blasphemy has to do with intent, so no.

As rule of thumb for how fucked up the books are, the first thing you see the bad guy in the first book do is kidnap & brainwash a little boy, then murder him by pouring molten lead down his throat. He then proceeds to summon his soul from the underworld to use as a way to travel through a magical barrier without getting killed. Not to mention the author is harder to understand than Nolan sometimes. I simplified all the philosophies, they were originally more cryptiic & half of them were in code.

It, I suppose, calms down a bit after book two. But the reason I like them so much is because I really relate to the main cast of protagonists (the books are excellent character dramas, on par with The Walking Dead)

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You mean the comic or the show? I cannot STAND the show and won't give it another chance after the three episodes butchered the premise and themes.

The show. And, yes, they completely fucked it up the ass- I don't even read the comics & I know that out of pure research.

Everything on the WB doesn't have to be annoying YA oriented bull- just look at Nikita, for christ's sake. Arrow stole Batman's morals, the actor CANNOT play haunted worth ****, and completely changed the story. Speedy may or may not be his sister, the Yaght sunk on accident & his father was corrupt instead of his business partner. They didn't even get the name of the city right- they called it Starling City... *sigh* it's still something to watch though.

Watch Doctor Who...it isn't great right now but it is still something to watch.


Elric of Melnibone is an amazing fantasy character by Michael Moorcock. Elric is the prince of the Melnibonian empire that once ruled the world, but now barely rule their own islands. This is because, simply put, they lost interest in ruleing the world. Now they are content with dreaming, drinking, and performing acts of unspeakable debauchery while still feeling they are the most badass people on the planet. They have the scorcery, navy, and dragons to prove it. Elric isn't like the rest of his people though; he has a concious and desire to find peace and morality amongst a people that want him to be cold and ruthless. Soon after becoming emperor, events spiral out of control that will eventually lead him down a long road and to a fate ten thousand times worse then death. His first mistake was summoning his patron Lord of Chaos, the duke of hell Atrioch. His second mistake was taking hold of the damned, black sword: Stormbringer.

Well there were plenty of other mistakes...but those are the two that stick out. Rainbows and Unicorns from there...*Sigh* it makes you happy you are not Elric, but also makes every little good thing that happens to him feel good.

Thus my rant about one of my favorite Fantasy characters of all time, which is weird considering the kind of hopeful guy I am.

Shogun_Master said:

The show. And, yes, they completely fucked it up the ass- I don't even read the comics & I know that out of pure research.

Everything on the WB doesn't have to be annoying YA oriented bull- just look at Nikita, for christ's sake. Arrow stole Batman's morals, the actor CANNOT play haunted worth ****, and completely changed the story. Speedy may or may not be his sister, the Yaght sunk on accident & his father was corrupt instead of his business partner. They didn't even get the name of the city right- they called it Starling City... *sigh* it's still something to watch though.

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I tried to watch it, I honestly WANTED to love it after reading the bloody awesome comic, but side from the effects, its a gruesomely retarded pile of ****. The last time I seen it, they were running away from zombies and acted like a bunch of braindead asshats whom never knew how to fight them, and that was season TWO i believe.

If I , or any of us had to deal with that kind of issues every day and month, wouldn't we be better and more prepared than as with we were born literally yesterday like in SOAP OPERAS? Damn , I swear in the ones remaining on TV the characters are like retarded step-children whom NEVER learn or think from their or other's mistakes. Still wonder why Sonny is still a mob boss or how Jason is an enforcer if neither have any common sense or intelligence that stays consistent with realistic development.

Revolution has this issue with their main cast, whom aside from the uncle and the British lady are the most incompetent people I would have a misfortune to ever work with. The thing I don't understand is how Danny and Charlie are complete dumbfucks , yet they were RAISED in a world where they needed to hunt and actually SURVIVE. Well at least Charlie has some fighting skills unlike how the brother [HIDE]runs right into the middle of a severe storm and has not the sense to actually allow his captor to die when he has the perfect opportunity when it is over.[/HIDE]

Not to mention the fat Google reject whom is somehow is still fat despite the lack of any food to sustain a carb intense diet and has zero survival skills. Mind you its 15 years after TEOWAWKI.

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So basically the Batman with green? Meh. Still gonna watch it though, but I am pissed they always screw some sort of thing up with their shows, although I LOVED the Aquaman pilot. Wish they went with their Raven series... now THAT's how you get the TrueBlood/Twilight demographic!

Boy howdy, did this thread go way off topic.

Bigdog said:

I tried to watch it, I honestly WANTED to love it after reading the bloody awesome comic, but side from the effects, its a gruesomely retarded pile of ****. The last time I seen it, they were running away from zombies and acted like a bunch of braindead asshats whom never knew how to fight them, and that was season TWO i believe.

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Oh, you were talking about The Walking Dead? Well, I haven't read the comics, just seen the show, so I couldn't tell you. I can say though that the creators deem seasons one & two only taking place within the space of a few months, so they are still new. One thing they are gearing up on is that season three is supposed to be the jail thing where they claim the story starts picking up, but no clue how that'll happen. The guy who made the comics is a production assistant, but constantly asks & even put forward ideas for the show to NOT follow the comics because he says if they did the deaths & scenarios just like the comics, it'd take away the element of surprise.

But, if characters doing things that seem stupid bother you, you might not like the Sword of Truth. The cast seems to consistantly do things that seem neglectful, stupid or cruel when taken out of context- like the main character forgetting the parameters of the spell the bad guy put on him until he is reminded, or his love interest being forced to kill a preteen child who the main antagonist of the series has sent to kill them & act like it was absolutely nothing to her to show a brave face to the army. It's still worth giving a try, though.

Shogun_Master said:

Oh, you were talking about The Walking Dead? Well, I haven't read the comics, just seen the show, so I couldn't tell you. I can say though that the creators deem seasons one & two only taking place within the space of a few months, so they are still new. One thing they are gearing up on is that season three is supposed to be the jail thing where they claim the story starts picking up, but no clue how that'll happen. The guy who made the comics is a production assistant, but constantly asks & even put forward ideas for the show to NOT follow the comics because he says if they did the deaths & scenarios just like the comics, it'd take away the element of surprise.

But, if characters doing things that seem stupid bother you, you might not like the Sword of Truth. The cast seems to consistantly do things that seem neglectful, stupid or cruel when taken out of context- like the main character forgetting the parameters of the spell the bad guy put on him until he is reminded, or his love interest being forced to kill a preteen child who the main antagonist of the series has sent to kill them & act like it was absolutely nothing to her to show a brave face to the army. It's still worth giving a try, though.

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I've only read the first volume really, but I can take characters acting stupid if they learn from it and adpt.

I'm OK with this. The world's overcrowded as it is.

Kill the little fuckers.

Mr. Underachiever said:

I'm OK with this. The world's overcrowded as it is.

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You volunteering your head for the chopping block? Thought not.