The Flashback Interview: Debbie D
My latest interview subject, Debbie D, was first mentioned to me by our mutual friend Deborah Dutch when I interviewed her in 2020. Two years or so later, I would meet Debbie D at the Chiller Theatre convention, and I said I would reach out to her about an interview. When I saw her IMDB page, though, I was taken aback by her many credits, and I knew that I would need time to formulate the right questions.
When I saw Debbie D again at the October 2022 Chiller, as shown in the cover photo, she playfully chided me about not reaching out to her about an interview after the April 2022 Chiller. A day or two after that Chiller, I sent Debbie an e-mail with an apology for not reaching out sooner. We set up an interview for December, and that interview is being published today. I hope you all enjoy getting to know this independent film legend and scream queen as I have.
Say hello to Debbie D!
Johnny: Hello, Debbie.
Debbie D: Hello, Johnny! How are you?
Johnny: I’m doing good. First of all, thank you for taking the time out of your schedule to speak to me.
Debbie D: Well, the same to you. I know we’re all busy, especially this time of year for most of us, right?
Johnny: Yep. Well, I have my questions ready to go.
Debbie D: I hope that I can answer them because sometimes I get stumped on my own career…I should say most of the time (Debbie and Johnny laugh).
Johnny: Well, let’s just jump right in with this. Did you always want to be a performer, or did you initially have a different career goal in mind?
Debbie D: As long as I can remember, I was always the performer while growing up the kids on my street would always congregate to my house. I was the one with all the toys and ideas for playing the day away. I was the leader of the pack and they were eager to be a part of it, So we played library, restaurant, Dr,, House, you name it. Everyone was an actor when you came to my house. I can’t remember really wanting to be anything else….Not yet (laughing).
Johnny: Alright. You started out as a singer, so who were your biggest influences as a musician?
Debbie D: Well, I think when I was a real little baby, I didn’t have a choice yet, but my mother used to put me in front of the stereo. Back then they were console stereos with the big, heavy wooden base body, turntable, speakers, radio and TV all in one. I don’t know if you remember those big things…
Johnny: Oh, I do.
Debbie D: Houses were all well-rugged back then in that famous green color. Rugs were a big thing, unlike today with the hardwood floors. My mother would put me in front of that stereo as an infant, and I would listen to the music. That was the only thing that could make me sit still and stop crying for hours. I think I learned to sing that way.
The music and singing must have been beautiful for me to be so content. I believe that’s what started my love for music. I sang the highest voice soprano, first soprano, in the glee clubs at school and in the school plays where I acted and sang in the musicals. I “always” had a solo in the glee club when we performed in concert. They told me I had the voice of an angel.
I started singing in bands when I was 15 and continued for many years. I later sang on the Disney Cruise ship as the female singer in the main show band where I met Jennifer Hudson, who was on the ship at the same time. She was singing in the musical plays before she hit huge success on American Idol a year or so later.
I was influenced by the legendary soft rock group Fleetwood Mac. That started me singing in bands, then I landed a record contract and sang dance music (laughing).
Johnny: So what was your favorite gig as a singer?
Debbie D: When a rock group I was in at the time opened up for the group Meat Loaf. I guess that was my favorite gig.
Johnny: Amazing stuff. Do you still sing today, or is acting where it’s primarily at for you now?
Debbie D: I act mainly. I model. I do bikini modeling, lingerie modeling, some nude modeling, foot modeling, anything under the sun. It goes from A-work to fetish kind-of work in modeling, but my main love is acting, and I would love to do some of the bigger projects. I do a lot of low-budget-medium-budget films, but I’ve never done anything major where I’ve had a major speaking part in it.
I’ve been on major sets in the M. Night Shyamalan movies, TV sets, meeting and working with other famous actors. I’ve had agents and managers in music and have traveled to all kinds of great places, but with the acting, I haven’t really gotten my major role yet. I don’t know if they want to take on a Scream Queen per se. They mainly just deal with whoever’s under their agency umbrella.
Johnny: Oh. I apologize if the wording of that question caused any upset or distress.
Debbie D: Oh, not at all, not at all. If you can hear disagreement in my voice you’re pretty psychic then. I’ve been going through something lately, and that’s probably what you’re sensing , but no, it has nothing to do with that question. It’s always good to talk everything out. Basically, that little down vibe there is because I don’t know whether I should leave Philadelphia and move to New York City. I definitely want to stay in the business, so you caught me at that time, if you understand what I mean. It’s good, that sixth sense that you have.
Johnny: Oh. Well, I appreciate that. Returning to you, though, how did you make the jump from singing to acting?
Debbie D: I think the acting was always there. In high school I did the school plays, and I would always get the part with flying colors because of my voice. I would land the roles under the leads because I didn’t dance. I was never professionally trained as a child. Dancing was a big part of musicals and I believe it still is…Not all musicals, but the ones in high school required the leads to dance.
During my singing career, acting would come about when I would be singing somewhere, and another actor would say, “I’m doing this commercial on the side. Would you like to do it with me?”. Different things would come up, but I didn’t realize that I was actually an actress.
Acting always intertwined somehow with my singing until I realized, “Oh, my gosh. This is what I’m supposed to do”. As a singer I would get tired of singing the same music over and over in Top 40 bands. I like to progress, and I write songs, so that continual repetition was kind of frustrating for me. With the acting, I finally felt fulfilled. I love portraying different characters.
Jumping around here, when I landed my record contract the company wanted me to do dance music and I wanted to do something along the lines of softer rock. They wanted me to stay with the dance because that was safe. Dance was on its way out and I knew it. A few years later the woman who came out with the pop rock for females was Sheryl Crow. They didn’t listen to me and what I wanted to do.
Sheryl Crow actually was in the right place. I guess we could’ve been out together, so I kind of missed the boat there. They don’t like to listen to the artist back then. They like to go with what’s safe. I understand things are different now. My record did what it did.
My B-movie career started when I went to a convention to promote my part in the B-movie industry. I landed that part in my first B-movie after I was discovered in a photography magazine by Falcon Video productions. I went ahead and did the movie hesitantly as it was a topless part. I ended up at a Chiller show and then, after that, I just kept doing movie after movie after movie, and that’s when I found my love. At present, I’m not doing any singing, but I probably will go back to it at some point, especially to finish writing all the songs.
Johnny: Alright. On the IMDB, your first credit is listed as playing Heather in the 1993 horror movie Burglar From Hell. What can you tell me about that movie and your part in it?
Debbie D: That was my first B-movie role, and I remember memorizing my lines and everybody else’s lines and picking out my wardrobe, and being a natural nudist, I was a little hesitant being undressed because it was my first time being so on a movie set. The writer/producer Philip Herman made me feel comfortable. We developed a friendship back then that we still have to this day. I actually recently wrote a short that’s going to be out in the new year on a compilation DVD with this same producer. We go back a long way, and we’re supposed to be doing a lot of projects in the next year.
Johnny: How lovely. In 1996, you starred in a project called Debbie D: The Witch And The Vampire. There’s no plot summary for it on IMDB, so what did that project entail?
Debbie D: I believe it was a custom work. At the time, Bill Arthur was my photographer, who also took my album cover photo, as well as got me published in the photography magazine that led to my first B-movie. The Witch and Vampire custom video came out so well that we marketed it ourself. It was what we call the B-level (laughing) of the movies. The story was good about a witch coming of age. An original story that was received well.
Johnny: Alright. Well, we’ll go to my next question. You played a character, also named Debbie, in the 1998 horror movie Play Dead, a movie about making movies for the murder fetish audience, so in your experience in horror movies, is the murder fetish real or just something made up for the movie?
Debbie D: The murder fetish is absolutely real. The horror/death fetish is just acting out the scenes of any movie that has a death scene in it. A lot of the CSIs had that. That’s just pulling those parts out and acting them. I call them little skits. It could be 5 to 15 minutes or longer depending on the death story. I’ve written a lot of them. Being a scream queen, the damsel in distress is what we are known for. What started it was people wanted me to act in their custom stories and I would get the actors to film with me, which I still do to this day.
I started writing my own, and I worked with a good friend of mine who passed away right as COVID was starting, Paul M.Sivacek, know as Penn Paul in the industry. He had a production company called “Horror Variety Theater”. I ended up being his main writer and actor. I understand it’s all fantasy, but it’s what I think of the B-movies as well, and the horror movies where there’s always someone getting slashed.
It’s just a thrill. Someone wouldn’t really want that to be reality, but it’s the thrill of watching it and knowing it’s fake, but still gives the viewer satisfaction. There’s a very big audience for it. Some people don’t even know they have the fetish, or know why they enjoy the horror movies and the death scenes, but that’s what it’s summed up to be. It’s just a death fetish, but people don’t really want to say it’s a fetish because it makes them seem like they’re not normal, but it’s all normal. It’s just how the brain’s wired.
Johnny: I understand that. Another one of your many collaborations with WAVE Video was the title role in 1999’s Destiny: Vampire Mermaid. What made that role so special for you?
Debbie D: Well, Ron Foss was the creator of Destiny. He created her in 1962, and then in 1994, he collaborated with Scary Monsters Magazine and put out some comics that he wrote as well as drew, and some stories on Destiny. Scary Monsters’ owner at the time, before he sold it, put the Vampire Mermaid on the end of Destiny. Ron Foss saw me in mermaid magazines, as well as vampire magazines, and he asked me since I played both a vampire and a mermaid, if I was willing to do a Vampire Mermaid.
When he asked me, I said yes and we signed a contract. I went on to be the spokesperson for “Destiny The Vampire Mermaid” and I was in Scary Monsters Magazine 20 years straight. Scary Monsters magazine was sold in Barnes & Noble and Borders and comic book stores all over the world. Portraying that character of Destiny made me that much bigger. People who love comics would know of her. I helped many artists and writers by having their work published in the magazine. These were comics, drawings, writings for “Destiny The Vampire Mermaid”.
I had the idea that I wanted to make her comic stories come to life. This was way before the superhero movies with Parts 1, 2, up to many successful parts. This was way before any of that. The ones that were around were the original Superman movies that were sold in black-and-white, plus the TV series.
When I came out with this idea, nothing like that was in the movie theaters yet. I always kind of flew under the radar for all the ideas that later come out in the major studios after my very low projects were published. They seem to follow me. Every time I came out with a design of clothing, it would be copied. I’m the silent one (laughing). I was putting out the Destiny, Vampire Mermaid stories myself on a very low budget, buying the clothing for it and getting the actors. The WAVE Productions company was always interested in comics, so he helped me film them.
Gary Whitson, WAVE’s owner, wrote some of his own stories, and he decided that he would get with me on it, and help do the filming and the editing of them. I filmed four Destiny stories with him, and then I went on to work with other people filming the Destiny stories, giving other film makers a chance at the live comic action series.
My career keeps evolving into other things, so now I’m waiting for the next chapter as they say. I also want to write more books. That’s where I’m at with that. It’s a little more than you wanted, but that’s the origin of “Destiny The Vampire Mermaid”.
Johnny: That’s absolutely fine. It’s good to hear those stories, and since you have mentioned playing mermaids in other projects and cosplays, what’s been the personal appeal of mermaids to you?
Debbie D: Well, when I was doing mermaids, nobody was doing mermaids. The only mermaid that was out was The Little Mermaid, first done by Hans Christian Andersen and then by Disney. That was it. There was no real talk of mermaids. You had to really search to find a mermaid, and again, that’s what I think made me be known as Debbie D, The brown-haired mermaid.
People would say, “Debbie D! You’re the mermaid!”. I was basically the first one and, because of that, people that loved mermaids clung on to me quickly. Every time I appeared as a mermaid live or published it went big!! That was the appeal of it. Again the big company’s jumped on the band wagon I started. A few years later everything was coming up mermaids!!! Still strong today!!
In my photographer Bill Arthur’s studio, we were doing a mermaid theme. I think that was the kickoff, and also the fact that I was able to swim before I could walk, sing before I could talk . For me, it was natural, and then I started getting all the mermaid tails. It started out with pictures, and then seamstresses were making tails for me that I designed. I was on wine bottles as a mermaid. Artists drew me .It just goes on and on with that. I was known for that, and it’s just something that evolved in the many facets of my career.
Johnny: Alright. Speaking of WAVE Video, you appeared in several movies in their Strangler series, including The Go-Go Girl Strangler, Revenge Of The Necktie Strangler, and The Vegas Showgirl Strangler. Of all the Strangler movies you worked on for WAVE, which was your favorite?
Debbie D: We’ve done so many. I would say the most popular was Lawyer Luau. I portrayed a lawyer who didn’t have any pity on the male who couldn’t pay his rent money, and I was raising the payments even more. I met my demise being cooked alive. As far as the Go-Go movies there were a few over the years. Of course everyone dies in these movies they all have their own story appeal.
Johnny; Alright. In 2004, you appeared in Kill The Scream Queen, the first of several projects where you would work with our mutual dear friend, and a former interview subject of mine, Deborah Dutch, so what are your favorite things about Deborah?
Debbie D: Well, her and I go way back. At first, like I was saying, I went on the conversation circuit to sell and promote my first movie at Chiller. I was only there for one day. It was a Saturday. That day, I actually did a movie part, and Scream Queens Illustrated Magazine asked me to appear at their table six months later. Everything worked in my favor that very first time there, one-day-only, appearance, and it wasn’t even under my name. I was with the company selling the movie Jacker, where I played Gloria.
Six months later, I was at the Scream Queens illustrated magazine table. I was wearing a dress, and of course, my name was Debbie D. Michelle Bauer and some other major scream queens at that time were saying to Debbie Dutch that someone was trying to take her identity. There was a girl named Debbie D, and we just happened to have the same outfit. She wanted to know just who this was, so she showed up on the east coast six months later and we became instant friends.
When we met, we realized it was just a mix-up, and from that day, we became friends. We did card sets and magazine layouts together, and then we went on to become The Double Ds. We did videos and custom work together, and we have been together ever since. Her and I have not been in any major movie together yet. I’ve been out to California a few times. She comes to the east coast a few times a year. It’s been a wonderful relationship for her and I.
Johnny: That’s wonderful to hear. She’s great. She’s a dear friend of mine, and of yours’ as well. She’s fantastic. Returning to you, though, also in 2004, you appeared in the movie Jesus Christ: Serial Rapist. When that script first crossed your desk, how did you feel when you read it?
Debbie D: I don’t know for sure if he told me what the title was at first. To me, there’s a separation between real life and acting, and if someone wants to get a script across that they want to write with whatever they use, it’s their art, and we have to respect other people’s arts. Of course, this person just THOUGHT they were Christ, so that’s the story, and I was just one of the actors in it. It did get a lot of attention being controversial.
Johnny: Alright. Moving ahead a couple of years, in 2006, you played an inmate in Shadow: Dead Riot, a movie that fused the horror genre with the women-in-prison genre. What stood out the most to you about working on that project?
Debbie D: I was just an inmate in the shower. I don’t think I had a big role in that. I believe that was it for me on that one. I was supposed to have a different role, but I ended up with that one because of schedule conflicts and such.
Johnny: Alright. We’ll move ahead then. In 2011, you appeared in The Great American Serial Killer, one of the most unnerving independent horror movies I’ve ever seen. You signed the DVD of that for me at Chiller when we met in April of 2022, and I saw the movie. It was a good movie, but very unnerving, so what was it like to work on that film?
Debbie D: The actor was really in acting mode, and he was strong. He had a real strong grip on him. He really got into the character, and he was nasty. I can’t speak for all the other actors, but I feel he portrayed the part well. Again, I’ve been in so many movies that I would have to rewatch a lot of them again. It would be like watching them for the first time. I would love to rewatch all my movies again.
I remember that I traveled far up on the Pennsylvania turnpike. We met at a motel, and it was the kind of motel that went with the story. They really did work hard on that one. I do remember that, and I was glad to be part of the cast.
Johnny: Alright. Switching gears, you’ve done a few bondage videos for sites like Girl Next Door Bondage and Older Women Tied. What led you to those videos?
Debbie D: Well, I think with horror movies, you’re the damsel in distress. You’re always tied up or held down in some way. It was natural for me to do something that was just all bondage, different knots and ties, how positions are and how long you can stay in different positions. I very seldom turn something down, unless it’s straightforward X-rated, but always give everything a try, and give the best version of yourself that you can to portray what the writer is trying to get across. I always feel like I do a good job at respecting someone else’s writings.
Johnny: Oh, I certainly think you do.
Debbie D: Thank you.
Johnny: Oh, no problem. Another project where you worked alongside Deborah Dutch is The Hollywood Warrioress. What have been your favorite parts of being involved with that series?
Debbie D: I love that Debbie Dutch kept with the dream of making this movie for many years until we finally got it off the ground with a producer friend of mine, James Panetta. I got her in contact with him because I felt he could actually do what she needed to do, and see it through. Together they made the movie happen, and she gave me the part she thought I would portray the best, Morgana.
We shot in different places, and got the clearances to work at some really nice places to film. I’m just proud that she got that going, and now it’s being worked on as a series. These things take time, but there’s videos out there right now so people can see what it’s about. It will evolve as the writing for each episode transpires.
Johnny: Wonderful to hear. Switching gears again, you’re credited as having appeared in a 2018 anthology film called Clownsploitation. Are you yourself afraid of clowns, or are you able to work alongside them pretty well?
Debbie D: Clowns are fine with me. Each one has their own personality. The horror movies made them what they are because someone’s imagination wrote their first story about it, or maybe it was a childhood experience that someone had with certain clowns. I have heard that spirits can take on forms, so maybe it was something that really happened, and that started the whole thing.
I really don’t know. For me, they’re fine, and I know there were a couple of movies I was in with clowns as well as writing a few myself. This company asked me to participate in a compilation tape, so I wrote a story then filmed it. I don’t know if I ever got to see it, though, in its’ entirety. I saw my part, of course, because I wrote my film, but I didn’t see the whole thing with all the other films together. It would be nice to see that. I never did get a copy.
Johnny: I see.
Debbie D: Did you get to see Clownsploitation?
Johnny: I can’t say I have yet, but I plan on tracking it down.
Debbie D: Good. Maybe we both can see it then (Debbie D and Johnny laugh).
Johnny: Although this interview will most likely be going up in 2023, since ’tis the season to ask such questions, how did you end up in the 2019 Christmas horror movie Giftwrapped and Gutted?
Debbie D: Because I knew the actor, and they needed actors that were local enough up and down the East Coast here. They gave me a part, and I was happy to play it, and hopefully there will be a number 2.
Johnny: Alright. As mentioned before, you’ve appeared at a decent amount of conventions over the years, so what’s been the most rewarding part of attending conventions for you?
Debbie D: Meeting the fans, and for them to enjoy the movies so much. When you’re making them, you’re just doing your part. You don’t know what’s going to happen with it, and then it gets out there and, all of a sudden, people are really watching it and liking it and appreciative of what you do. That makes me just love going to the shows.
Johnny: Speaking of which, I myself have met you twice at the Chiller Theatre convention, both times this year, 2022…
Debbie D: Yes.
Johnny: …So what makes Chiller Theatre such a special show for you?
Debbie D: I started out there. I know they started in an old movie theater that was gutted of its’ seats and had a slanted floor, but I came along not too far after that, and out of all the conventions, Chiller’s kind of my home base.
Johnny: Yeah, I can relate to that. Chiller’s my home base, too. It’s the only convention I attend, and I really enjoy it. I’ve met so many great talents there including, of course, yourself.
Debbie D: I’m surprised it took me this long to meet you.
Johnny: Well, I’m glad that we did.
Debbie D: Yeah.
Johnny: Speaking of which, what’s been the most wonderful piece of memorabilia you’ve signed at a convention?
Debbie D: Someone did a drawing of me. I know someone did a papier-mache of Destiny The Vampire Mermaid, and they said they made one for me, as well as Howard Stern. Howard Stern featured it on his show, I was given mine soon after that then I was on his show. I guess the papier-mache. It was well-done. It had a lot of construction paper and an awful lot of clear tape to make one of these, and I’d never seen anything like it. I still have mine.
Johnny: How lovely.
Debbie D: Yes. Sadly, a lot of things got destroyed when I was trying to move. I was putting things down into this very large damp basement which I thought was perfect for storage, but I didn’t realize this basement was so close to the river here in Philadelphia…
Johnny: Ooh!
Debbie D: …so I lost a lot. When I went to retrieve the things there, I had to throw out a lot of stuff, so much fan mail, because the moisture gets in and it turns to mush. I was glad to still have the papier-mache Destiny. It was in a better bin, you could say.
Getting back to your original question about the most interesting thing I’ve signed, someone had a tattoo of me as Debbie D, The Brown-Haired Mermaid, on their arm, and they wanted me to sign next to it. I did that, of course, but it didn’t last. It was just temporary for the show. I’ve signed a lot of things. I’ll have to think about that more (laughing).
Johnny: When it does come to the sexy pictures you’ve signed, while explicit personalizations are obviously out, are you okay with flirty or suggestive personalizations?
Debbie D: You mean writing something that might not ever happen, but I write it anyway?
Johnny: Right. I asked this question of Deborah Dutch when I interviewed her a couple of years back. Obviously, sexually explicit stuff is out of the question, but if it’s flirty or suggestive, is that okay with you?
Debbie D: Yes. I don’t see the harm in that.
Johnny: Alright. I only ask because, I mean, you do look very sexy, if I may be so bold, and I know that some people are okay with flirty personalizations while others aren’t. I did an e-mail interview with Adrienne Barbeau earlier this year. I asked her about that, and she said that she doesn’t do flirty personalizations, so it varies from person to person.
Debbie D: And I’m sure that if she knew the person more, she might. She probably meant in general. I’ve met her a few times. I like her a lot!!
Johnny: Right. Returning to you, though, I now come to my final question, and it’s this: What’s next for you?
Debbie D: That was the part that you were feeling earlier (laughing). You asked a question, and when I answered, it sounded like I was down. Well, I actually don’t know. I want to do major movies, but I don’t think I can stay here to do them. I have to get a better agent, and an agent wants you to move closer to where they are, which is fine, but I want to know that I’m getting the work.
I then thought maybe I’ll just take on a real job. I haven’t had one of those since I was 18 years old. In between my singing, I had a real job for a few months, but I haven’t had to do it since I was 18. I’m thinking of my future. I would love to be making all kinds of major movies, but I’ll have to make a move to do that. As I’m contemplating where to move and what to do, I’m always doing projects. I’m writing more. In 2023, I’ll be doing more writing and acting in my own projects, which I’ve done before, but this time, it’s going to be not so much the damsel in distress.
I’m moving up to stronger characters, but in between them, I’m thinking civilization is having a pension and a Social Security check to survive off of. You have to work a certain amount of years, so when I am 80 and such, and maybe not making as many movies, I have to live off of something. They say you can work a regular job, which Debbie Dutch does, and other girls do as well. Maybe it’s time that I buckle down myself and get something like that, but it’s almost like a death. You know, I’ve done this full-time for so long, but if I was working with major people right now, and doing major movies, I could live off of that in my 80s, but you have to start thinking about the future. We all mature at one point and try to figure it out.
That’s my future that I’m thinking of now, just recently before this interview this week, actually, getting a job and still doing my acting. I have some more projects coming down the pike, too, so if I take on this job and it interferes with my career, I’ll have to leave it and say, “Maybe I can still act in my 80s” (laughing), which I wouldn’t mind, but who knows what kind of parts will be around then?
Johnny: Well, I know that whatever you’re going to do, you’ll do it wonderfully.
Debbie D: Oh, thank you!
Johnny: Oh, no problem. That does it for my questions. I again thank you for taking the time out of your schedule to speak to me. I’m sorry it took me so long to reach out to you. The only reason why I didn’t get back to you in April was just because I looked at your IMDB filmography, and I was stunned by the depth of it and all the work you’ve done. I needed some time to properly approach your career with the questions. I’m glad we finally talked, and I hope you found them interesting.
Debbie D: Yes, and thank you for letting me go off because my career is so vast that we couldn’t possibly cover it all in one interview. So your research, even though this took an hour to do, was still very thorough, and we touched on what the audience would want to hear for our first round.
Johnny: I hope you have a wonderful afternoon and a wonderful holiday season.
Debbie D: You, too, and it sounds like you’re feeling better as well.
Johnny: Indeed I am. I’ve been taking a lot of Robitussin.
Debbie D: The East Coast weather can be nasty.
Johnny: It certainly can, but continued good health and good cheer to you.
Debbie D: You, too, and thank you so much. Happy everything.
Johnny: Thank you so much. Be well.
Debbie D: You, too. Bye bye.
Johnny: Bye.
I would again like to thank Debbie D for taking the time out of her schedule to speak to me. For more about Debbie D, you can visit her official website, which has links to all her social media.
Coming soon to the Flashback Interview are conversations with dancer/singer Deborah Jenssen, Oscar-winning makeup artist Kevin Haney, comedienne Monique Marvez, two-time Oscar-winning sound designer Russell Williams II, and Oscar-winning hairstylist Anne Morgan.
Happy 2023, everybody!
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