Tokyo Anime and Manga Ban Passes

[Aoi Kurenai]

I've read that part of it does include presenting violent/criminal acts in a positive light.

 

[Hidden Masta]

and even fine artists got in on the act as Superflat art godfather Takashi Murakami even dressed up Britney Spear in a school girl for some magazine photoshoot as an excuse to make a point about how the law would effect free expression in Japan.

:eyebrow:

While he's ironically the chairman of the TAF committee, he has gone on record as saying "I get the impression that many manga lovers lead dead-end lives. Go talk to a living woman!"

:rofl:That's the funniest thing ever!!! I just thought this stuff was normal for Japan!


But seriously if they touch Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece I'll fucking kill them. Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece taught me how.

 

[Demi-Fiend]

I've read that part of it does include presenting violent/criminal acts in a positive light.

I haven't read anything like that, this is my first time hearing of violence being included.

 

[garfield15]

:eyebrow:

Oh yeah. That happened.

But seriously if they touch Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece I'll fucking kill them. Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece taught me how.

To love.

 

[Skiks]

That would include one piece since the pirates are so anti-government I'd figure. But like I said before I doubt this will be seriously enforced.

 

[Lynxara]

The idea of the criminal acts clause being interpreted broadly as violence is at this point mostly a theory. Nobody really has a line into how the law would actually be enforced. The intent of the bill is clearly to reign in lolicon publishing (as if that hadn't been around since the 80s).

Traditionally, Japanese content bills that can be interpreted broadly very rarely are if it means important people lose money. It's not in the government's interest to turn Shounen Jump's Big Three into R18 works. Those are (no, really) considered major cultural exports.

The works likely to be hit hard by this are exploitation material in the vein of, say, Kodomo no Jikan... and sadly enough, stuff working in the gekiga tradition. For instance, under this law, I don't see how IKKI could run half the stuff it publishes, let alone its bigger hits like Bokurano.

I don't really give a **** about manga no longer being a place to go to fantasize about fucking women with the bodies of little girls, but the impact this could have on more artistic manga is extremely bothersome. This law would outlaw stuff Tezuka himself created in the 70s.

 

[garfield15]

Right. The declining of standards of hard ecchi/loli nothing for me. The problem is that the law is so vague in what is "wrong" that it could be that anything could be put as under fire.

 

[Blue Saint]

Someone really needs teach people the difference between bills being approved by a committee and actually being passed... Also to get the boilerplate statement out of the way: personally so long as it doesn't involve the harm of any actual person a work has a right to exist even if I or others may find it distasteful.

My real question is what does this really mean? Granted this view be wrongheaded but from everything I have read the Tokyo government as a whole seems rather toothless with this. I mean the language is so vague it is basically meaningless and there is no actual sections about how to realistically regulate or enforce any aspect of the bill. Honestly it seems like the government expects the companies to bow down to them and self-regulate, and honestly if the major publishers and government came into conflict I am not sure who would come out on top. And for a government (even a local one) for that be a question is bad thing.

 

[Lynxara]

I mean the language is so vague it is basically meaningless and there is no actual sections about how to realistically regulate or enforce any aspect of the bill.

The fear is that the vague language will be interpreted broadly by the government and used to censor a wide range of works now considered innocuous. There is some precedent for this in Japan's modern history, but there's also precedent for vaguely worded laws being enforced lazily or just ignored.

Right now nobody is sure what will happen so people are anxious and mentally preparing themselves for the worst.

 

[garfield15]

My real question is what does this really mean? Granted this view be wrongheaded but from everything I have read the Tokyo government as a whole seems rather toothless with this. I mean the language is so vague it is basically meaningless and there is no actual sections about how to realistically regulate or enforce any aspect of the bill. Honestly it seems like the government expects the companies to bow down to them and self-regulate, and honestly if the major publishers and government came into conflict I am not sure who would come out on top. And for a government (even a local one) for that be a question is bad thing.

You've hit the nail on the head. This entire deal is really vague to the point where I'm not even sure if most of the legislatures are 100% sure of what is going into this. It seems more than anything they want some sense of control and since that bitch Ishihara won't stop pushing for something, anything that makes him feel like he is more on top of the entire deal, making it seem like he's the one who's right, the major players have little choice but to follow.

It's less that they are relegating things for youth at all and instead wanting to play "thought police" without having any idea what in the hell to do.