My Problems With Rising Ultimate Kuuga Form

[musashi03]

My only take on this issue is that Onodera is a version of Kuuga that unlike Godai, hasn't matured or really learned about his powers. He seems to be the exact opposite of Godai in a sense that Godai trained for everything and slowly progressed until he has mastered his powers, unlike Onodera who got plucked from his world prematurely thanks to Decade, and was possessed by the stone which may have altered him to reach a different Ultimate Form (Rising Ultimate to be exact) without passing through what Godai has learned through life experience.

The only logical solution I have to why Onodera was still able to keep his Rising Ultimate Form even when the stone was destroyed was that he was altered permanently by the stone (not sure if Rising Ultimate is still his final form in Movie Taisen), hence being able to keep the form, but it is now under his control, whereas Godai had to learn the hard way to control the Ultimate Form.

So Onodera and Godai isn't really comparable for me, and so does Rising Ultimate and Ultimate Form since those are part of 2 different worlds. The 2 forms are just like 2 different branches of the same tree, Ultimate being a sturdier branch due to Godai's experiences, whereas Rising Ultimate being the same level as Goda's branch and not as sturdy because of Onodera's inexperience (at least compared to Godai) but is sharper due to its powers as altered by the stone.

As for the design of the Rising Ultimate Form, I didn't like it on TV since it looks too muscular, but the same thing cannot be said with its Figuarts counter-part which is a thing of beauty. Being a collector of only either main form or final form of a Rider in Figuarts, I pre-ordered Rising Ultimate so it can stand side-by-side with Decade Complete Form, Diend, and Kivaara (once she gets released), but I'm still going to get the upcoming Figuarts Ultimate Kuuga to represent the original series.

 

[NeonZ]

... but the fact that it does so makes Rising Ultimate more baffling. So it's diagetically weaker than Ultimate, when all the other Rising forms are improvements...?

Eh... not really. For the final battle, when Decade makes the AR Riders go to their final forms, Yuusuke goes Rising Ultimate again, not Ultimate. Ultimate is just the strongest form Yuusuke could use by himself.

 

[musashi03]

Eh... not really. For the final battle, when Decade makes the AR Riders go to their final forms, Yuusuke goes Rising Ultimate again, not Ultimate. Ultimate is just the strongest form Yuusuke could use by himself.

Well, as much as I don't want to rely on Wiki, it does say that Rising Ultimate is an advanced form of the Ultimate version of Godai. For me, Rising Ultimate is arguably stronger than Ultimate simply because of the added effects of the Stone of Earth. Simple as that. It's like a mutated Ultimate Form, not really a higher level of the Ultimate Form, but just something that is different due to the introduction of an external factor (stone of Earth).

 

[wyyc]

Rising Ultimate Kuuga was in a hard battle against someone who was BETTER than him, so why didn't that break his belt and/or kill him? And yes, yes it was the transformation. The sheer power being generated, the belt just could not take it anymore.

I watched Kuuga's finale a couple of times and I'm pretty sure Daguba and Godai both punched each other's belts, causing them to break. So yeah, it's not Ultimate Kuuga's power that broke the belt.

Anyway Rising Ultimate would have been tolerable if it wasn't so ugly. Geki wearing Burai's golden chest armor looked cool, because the Zyu costumes were sleek. Ultimate Kuuga is sleek as well; his design was perfect. Rising Ultimate Kuuga messes with perfection; the end result is that Onodera looks like he's wearing a huge golden bra.

 

[Diaxiann]

Honestly, my problem with Rising Ultimate?

You know when you walk into a jewlery store, and there are some smaller, but classy looking rings or necklaces at the back, but at the front are the huge, golden, gaudy, bigger-than-the-classy-rings-or-necklaces fake costume jewlerry that cost like, 5 dollars a pop? That's Rising Ultimate Kuuga.

 

[Nanami Tenkawa]

the evolution went start Growing -> Mighty -> Dragon -> Pegasus -> Titan -> Ultimate. but rising modes and Amazing Mighty have involved by golden power from the Arcle Belt gain stronger, tougher and faster however, depends on statistics.

the number 1 problem of all is Toei's lacked ideas especially in movies or series. btw, look Rising Ultimate Form didn't surpass Shadow Moon and Kamen Rider W do the overwhelming godmodding events suddenly gets me angry somehow for a reason. Toei must know that Rising Ultimate Kuuga is almost most powerful level of Heisei Riders final forms respectedly. this is what i hate when supervising commercial with toys and not concentrate the story. well they have advantage for gain money which i've know it since Den-O got popular.

onore...Den-O and TOEI!!! :shakefist

 

[Kishu_Yu]

Well Yusuke can't control his Ultimate Form, unlike Godai. But it still showed what could have happened to the original Kuuga if he didn't had a good heart.

true, no control over ultimate kuuga if no pure good heart. but the question is, if ever godai attained rising ultimate, do you think that he can be pawned by shadowmoon that easily? personally, NO. BOTH OF THEM WILL PROBABLY END UP IN THE HOSPITAL:

Shadowmoon: Don't think this is the end, we'll settle this next time!

Kuuga: Save that breath of yours for our next confrontation. (to himself) But for now, I'm gonna sink my teeth into these goodies Ichijo-san and Sakurako-san brought me! *munch* *munch* *munch* *munch*.

About the Agito upgrade, I think he has one: Mirage Agito.

 

[RagnorokKing]

Okay, say it with me everyone...
it's TOEI!
The reason why rising Ultimate appears is the same as why Decade Complete appears.
There is none.
They have no real meaning other than to say "Heisei is SOOOO much better than Showa".
Which is a horrible lie Toei tries to tell us as they cry themselves to sleep every night.

 

[NeonZ]

They have no real meaning other than to say "Heisei is SOOOO much better than Showa".
Which is a horrible lie Toei tries to tell us as they cry themselves to sleep every night.

The only ones crying about that are some fans. Toei clearly doesn't think like that. They even forced yet another Shocker version into Decade's final movie. They wouldn't do that if they disliked Showa.

 

[Chronotia Archzenom]

That is why I can't understand what is going on in Decade anymore because of the writing. Let's take this up, events 1, 6, 8 are needed in the plot but then nowhere can they be found and then Events 2 and 7 came in and started mentioning events 1, and 6 and even 8. What the heck?

Then came the Rising Ultimate. Wow! How dumb is this. ULTIMATE means FINAL M.G. (My goodness). *facepalm*