Kamen Rider OOO - Talk Up!

[NeonZ]

Wait, people in this thread have decided that OOO's main gimmick is useless and pointless?

Way to make an awesome show, Toei.

Toei is building up the single color forms almost like power ups.

I don't know why they decided to do that, but this reaction is pretty natural. If those forms are undoubtedly better than the mixed ones, it clearly makes the feature pointless. Of course, the single color form hasn't debuted yet, so this impression might be wrong, but I don't think they'll surprise anyone...

I don't understand why they took that route though, considering the reactions in this thread, which seem pretty logical considering the information available.

 

[Lynxara]

I don't know why they decided to do that, but this reaction is pretty natural.

Oh, I absolutely agree it's a natural reaction. But... why do that when your main toy gimmick is crazy unprecedented modularity? I can only assume the audience is having a really negative or indifferent reaction to the OOO form-switching.

I think it goes back to something I said when we were seeing the pre-production stuff for OOO, when I noted that it looked like PLEX had actually designed the one-color forms and then Bandai just carved those designs up to make TaToBa and the other "mixed" forms.

If PLEX really designed just the one-color forms, people probably like them better since they have more coherent personalities and are just more interesting to look at than the mix-match forms. Even with Tatoba it's not clear to me why that's the mascot form... beyond wanting to emphasize the modularity gimmick... which they may be abandoning already.

 

[Kiryurules]

I think Bandai just bit off more than they could chew when they made all of OOO's body parts become modular, since it opened up for way more body part combinations than they could possibly cover in a way that made all the various combos both useful and necessary in the story. So unless they do more arbitraty "OOO loses this and that medal but gains this and that one instead, so he has to rely more on this and that combo for now" all the time, I definetly think TaToBa and the various full-colour forms will recieve the spotlight.

On the topic of the TaToBa form I think that's the main form because it's the most well-rounded or something, since it covers three colours with parts that go well together in battle.

 

[NeonZ]

But... why do that when your main toy gimmick is crazy unprecedented modularity? I can only assume the audience is having a really negative or indifferent reaction to the OOO form-switching.

Isn't it too early for that? I think it was just a bad decision, not result of a quick change of plans.

It's not just a matter of the audience liking the design of the pure forms better. Toei itself has been hyping them as stronger than the mixed ones for weeks in magazines and the series barely started. The single color combos also are the only ones with final attacks aside from Tatoba (Rather than just making a set of generic final attacks that every form could use).

I just wonder how they ever thought that idea (Single color forms significantly better than the ones involving color mixing) was a good addition to a series based on the concept of part swapping. It's completely counter intuitive.

 

[KouAidou]

I just wonder how they ever thought that idea (Single color forms significantly better than the ones involving color mixing) was a good addition to a series based on the concept of part swapping. It's completely counter intuitive.

To play Devil's Advocate, during the early releases a lot of people were speculating that there could be negative consequences to using the full-color forms too often, since it's basically becoming a Greed.

Another possibility is that the full-color forms are basically "easy mode": they give you a big burst of power, but that power is the ceiling of what you can do. If you can actually learn how to use the multi-forms properly you will totally own the final boss gain power that outstrips the raw power of the single-form boost.

(Of course if the toy companies are trying to push the idea of SINGLE COLOR FORMS SO BADASSSS, I can't imagine they'd take kindly to them being written as flawed. So they're kind of screwed the pooch either way...)

 

[UltraKamenSentaiJH3]

To play Devil's Advocate, during the early releases a lot of people were speculating that there could be negative consequences to using the full-color forms too often, since it's basically becoming a Greed.

Another possibility is that the full-color forms are basically "easy mode": they give you a big burst of power, but that power is the ceiling of what you can do. If you can actually learn how to use the multi-forms properly you will totally own the final boss gain power that outstrips the raw power of the single-form boost.

(Of course if the toy companies are trying to push the idea of SINGLE COLOR FORMS SO BADASSSS, I can't imagine they'd take kindly to them being written as flawed. So they're kind of screwed the pooch either way...)

i don't that much with uva, kazari combos but SaGoZo might be rampaging combo like FangJoker

 

[Skiks]

Well OOO works with the combos in a way. I mean I assume the original OOO never used the complete forms at first and somehow found a way to steal the other Core medals to eventually become the full forms we're about to see. But I do see how overhyping the full forms could cause a backlash and make the mixing seem kinda useless. It is sort of useless but for the story to work it needed to exist.

 

[kikaider287]

To play Devil's Advocate, during the early releases a lot of people were speculating that there could be negative consequences to using the full-color forms too often, since it's basically becoming a Greed.

Another possibility is that the full-color forms are basically "easy mode": they give you a big burst of power, but that power is the ceiling of what you can do. If you can actually learn how to use the multi-forms properly you will totally own the final boss gain power that outstrips the raw power of the single-form boost.

(Of course if the toy companies are trying to push the idea of SINGLE COLOR FORMS SO BADASSSS, I can't imagine they'd take kindly to them being written as flawed. So they're kind of screwed the pooch either way...)

I think that would be the only way to gived those half forms relevance throughout the series; that or the fact that OOO loses some medals used for the full forms, so he has to learn how to use the halfs tangibly. Because really....if Bandai heavily pushes the idea that the Full's are uBeR strong....there would be no point to having the half's at all. I really hope pushes for the former idea that in order to full take advantage of OOO's true power, you have to learn to use all the different parts in tandem...and not just seperately.

Annnnnnnd it would be nice if they actually empathize the different use of said medals because some of the abilities......kinda just blend together. :anime:

 

[KamenRiderUNDERGROUND]

I would say the mixed forms is used for balancing the powers, too much power on one side cannot be good.

 

[Reimon]

I wonder if OOO's story going to have Dark Rider to appear like Kamen Rider Dark OOO.