Kamen Rider Gaim - News/Rumors Thread 2: Suffering Incoming
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Tendou Soujiro
Kamen Rider Dark Kabuto
That I think is also just stuff they did to look cool. The sped up parts of his attacks might be to imply his fast reflexes, not a literal representation of his speed.
And Zangetsu wears Jinba well.It's the black on white.
This. People take things way too literally.
Zangetsu was the most experienced user at the time as well as the strongest. The special effects were undoubtedly meant to imply that.
TheLastBlade
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I never said it was a bad thing.... Much. I just have fun looking at the weird plot holes in every tokusatsu I watch.
Tendou Soujiro
Kamen Rider Dark Kabuto
It's not a plot hole if there's an obvious implication or explanation.
TheLastBlade
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Tendou Soujiro
Kamen Rider Dark Kabuto
I guess so.... Doesn't stop me from nickpicking stuff
Nothing wrong with that, but it's a little difficult to call something a plot hole when we had a lot of context to consider.
BoukenSilver83
shinkenchange!starninger!
i dont understand why can zangetsu take out shin/micchy so easy? and kota in the kiwami/ultimate power cant? is it more about the user that affects the powers because of the experience?
meaning is takatora more experienced than kota or kota is just a coward/not working hard enough to take out shin/micchy?
meaning is takatora more experienced than kota or kota is just a coward/not working hard enough to take out shin/micchy?
Tendou Soujiro
Kamen Rider Dark Kabuto
I don't understand where you are getting the idea that Kouta with Kiwami Arms can't defeat Micchy. Have you paid any attention to the series?
The first time Kouta fought Micchy with Kiwami Arms was a 2v1 that Kouta would have easily won if Micchy didn't use Dyudyuonshu as a diversion to get away.
Tossing the Kiwami and Kachidoki lock seeds aside, the power of a Rider likely comes down to the skill of the user, IMO. If Kaito can defeat Sid with a Sengoku Driver and the Watermelon lock seed, then I can completely understand Takatora being able to defeat Micchy. Takatora obtained his Sengoku Driver long before anyone else in Gaim and Micchy is arguably either the first or second worst fighter in the series.
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Malunis_T
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Honestly, it seems like the Classes for the Lockseeds have caused a lot of power debate, haven't they? :laugh: Unless this sort of thing happens with each series.
This reminds me of a fair point brought up about power levels in Dragonball Z, which is that they're sort of pointless because if it REALLY came down to whose number was largest, the battle might as well be "Okay, you're 14,000 and I'm 13,000, I'm just going to declare myself the loser and walk away."
In the end, it comes down to tactics, skill, and anything else related to the fighter and not the form. I sort of take these forms' Classes with a grain of salt. And question how the Classes even come into play in the first place... more durability? Do the weapons somehow hurt more? RPG logic? There's plenty of moments where the fighter is the one changing things, not the highest Class.
This reminds me of a fair point brought up about power levels in Dragonball Z, which is that they're sort of pointless because if it REALLY came down to whose number was largest, the battle might as well be "Okay, you're 14,000 and I'm 13,000, I'm just going to declare myself the loser and walk away."
In the end, it comes down to tactics, skill, and anything else related to the fighter and not the form. I sort of take these forms' Classes with a grain of salt. And question how the Classes even come into play in the first place... more durability? Do the weapons somehow hurt more? RPG logic? There's plenty of moments where the fighter is the one changing things, not the highest Class.
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