Donnie Yen vs. Tak Sakaguchi

[Lustful Butchery]

Who is better & who would win?

Donnie Yen:

Or

Tak Sakaguchi:

 

[KAGEKI]

Donnie Yen, because I'm more familiar with his work.

 

[Tsubasa Dragon]

i vote tied because one is a swordsman and donnie uses his body. how can i compare these two?

 

[prometheus126]

donnie yen would own tak sakaguchi. there is absolutely no comparison to the two!!

donnie yen trained since he was a kid by his mom, Bow Sim-Mark, who is concidered one of the greatest living martial artists alive. you know the character chun-li? she was inspired by donnies mom. he then was sent to beijing to be taught by her teacher and was a fellow student with jet li. he is at olympic level.

tak sakaguchi was a street brawler. he didn't start studying anything untill he was assigned to do versus. even now he's not all that great at martial arts. he can fight but he's not all that well versed.

taks got really good fists and knee and a pretty decent grapple but his kicks suck. donnies got better kicks, better fists, better grapples and he's faster. there is absolutely no comparison, none whatsoever. I'm not discrediting tak for just being a street brawler because I used to do the same thing but I personaly know that a guy trained in taekwondos kick is a whole lot better then my kick (have the bridge of mollers to prove it.).
so yeah, donnie yen for the win

 

[KamenGrappler]

Tak is the man. rocket punches FTW

 

[Bolt]

donnie yen would own tak sakaguchi. there is absolutely no comparison to the two!!

donnie yen trained since he was a kid by his mom, Bow Sim-Mark, who is concidered one of the greatest living martial artists alive. you know the character chun-li? she was inspired by donnies mom. he then was sent to beijing to be taught by her teacher and was a fellow student with jet li. he is at olympic level.

tak sakaguchi was a street brawler. he didn't start studying anything untill he was assigned to do versus. even now he's not all that great at martial arts. he can fight but he's not all that well versed.

taks got really good fists and knee and a pretty decent grapple but his kicks suck. donnies got better kicks, better fists, better grapples and he's faster. there is absolutely no comparison, none whatsoever. I'm not discrediting tak for just being a street brawler because I used to do the same thing but I personaly know that a guy trained in taekwondos kick is a whole lot better then my kick (have the bridge of mollers to prove it.).
so yeah, donnie yen for the win

Here's the problem with your logic: being a martial artist doesn't necessarily mean that you can fight. Donnie's had tons more formal training, yes, but since when does formal martial art training = the ability to overcome another person in actual combat? There's very little emphasis put on the application of destructive techniques, especially in an art like wushu, which is Donnie's forte. Tak, while not being as classically trained as Donnie, learned in the most straightforward, headfirst way possible--by simply beating up other people on the streets. It's the same theoretical difference as a college kid taking a class on painting and being put up in an art show against someone like Frida Kahlo who had taught herself to paint as a result of her situation and who had painted all her life. It's just difference types of experience; in martial arts, one principle does not flow in a linear manner back and forth between two ideals.

If you wanted to make a more similar comparison, both men are strongly inspired by mixed martial arts techniques and competition, as is evident in their choreographing styles. Their knowledge and experience in the discipline is up for questioning, but it's safe to assume that Tak's training began after the filming of Versus and that Donnie's interest was sparked sometime shortly before the filming of Sha Po Lang, which was his first effort to contain MMA-based techniques. So it's feasible that Tak could have as much as five years extra training in MMA than Donnie. Conversely, Donnie's previous wealth of martial arts knowledge might facilitate his training and make it much easier for him to pick up ideas and techniques much more quickly. There's really just no way of knowing.

What I want to know is: what exactly do these threads mean by "vs."? Is it an actual fight? Are we comparing their films? Their choreography? Their individual fighting styles as portrayed in their films? Maybe if I knew more about the circumstance I could be more enlightening as to an answer.

 

[Lustful Butchery]

Is it an actual fight? Are we comparing their films? Their choreography? Their individual fighting styles as portrayed in their films?

Pretty much all discussion on that dude. :sweat:

Next time I'll be more clearer. :thumbs:

 

[Bolt]

In that case, let me input my two cents. Ahem!

Donnie. Not only does he have added martial arts and film experience, but he's older, and that's a different kind of experience altogether. Plus, Hong Kong ain't the lilly-livered, lush place it is here for celebrities; I'm sure Donnie's got a level of toughness we haven't been exposed to. Tak is already a force to be reckoned with in the action film business, but he's still a little green. Maybe in ten years he'll be the force of nature Donnie is and has been. Donnie has paid his dues, and he continues to make incredible action films nowadays (arguably the best of his career). Martial arts knowledge might not always be the deciding factor in a fight, but I think here it would be. Plus, as far as filmmaking goes, Donnie has had the advantage of working with legends like Ridley Tsui, Jackie Chan, and Yuen Wo Ping, and now that he has found Wilson Yip as a stable comandeer, I think he's re-carved a niche for himself in HK action cinema.

That being said, I still really enjoy Tak and I'm a big fan of his. He brings a kind of charisma to the screen that isn't just conveyed in physical movement; he's young, energetic, and has kind a toughguy sensibility about him while still displaying sensitivity and humility. Plus, he's in some of the greatest cult films of all time.

 

[x1xBladex1x]

Donnie Yen

 

[ForeverRed]

I have to go with Donnie Yen, I've seen most of his film and I loved those. I don't know much about Tak Sakaguchi, atleast I saw him in Kamen Rider Kabuto and I thought he was pretty good.