Disney, WTF!!!

This is irrelevent and probably wrong anyway. There are a myriad ways for the body to receive exercise and not all of them or even most have to be performed outdoors. Have you ever heard of a fitness center? I bet Norway has too.

Furthermore, body fat levels and overall composition is largely dependent on diet. It's unlikely that the quantities of overly-processed but affordable packaged foods exist in Norway that exist here. People eat what's attainable, and the impoverished don't have much of a choice.

Yes and no. Diet ,while it does have a factor, genetics does as well.

Those whom have diets that are unsuited to their genetics, ones that went on meat and vegetation without all this processed crap we have today , alongside a modern industrialized lifestyle where jobs do not allow or are sedentary in nature , it's no wonder.

The diet of the masses changed, but it largely ignored why those in the higher classes could eat what they ate. They ate five separate smaller portioned meals , exercised and whatnot.


*17% refers to overall national poverty, as opposed to the less startling "official" national poverty level that's been calculated according to the census. Note also that that article is dated and that inflation and subsistence have both continued to decline in the past year, which means that the percentage is now likely even higher. This is nearly a quarter of our country. Does that seem right to you?

I'd go with "1/5th of the nation is impoverished" and not "nearly a quarter" for accuracy's sake, but aside from that its sound..



I can't decide whether to laugh or boil over about this. These are obviously the words of an ignorant, nardscratching mouthbreather who catches little bits of pundit discourse on Fox News
I only watch it once a week if I really care, but mostly, I get all my news online independent from the lamestream media.

And no, if Fox was mainstream, then explain why the majority of the mainstream media is liberal slanted rather than conservative?

archive.mrc.org/biasbasics/pdf/BiasBasics.pdf


and regurgitates them all over whoever's in ear shot to rattle on about the values of hard work and American idealism.
Sure..... you can believe that.

Gimme a fucking break. If I had to guess, I'd say you've never worked a day in your life.

I got two jobs , with a family business and whatever I earn on my Adsense account.



I'm employed at a high-end restaurant with a mostly affluent clientele and very healthy business, and even some of the servers I work with are single mothers struggling to provide for young children, or are trying to support their entire immediate family due to disability or illness, or are living out of their cars and still manage to hold an enviable position.

I already know this fact. My older sister was a server and they get get paid poorly, mainly depending on their tips. I'm taking the tippers are cheapskates, aren't they?


I was once asked for five dollars of gas money from a guy who works about 55 hours a week.
If you are a server, then its not really a job that has the income flowing in as it depends on the tips mainly.

If you had that many brain cells in your head,
I'm starting to doubt you have brain cells because you are bringing up a position where:

-The main source of income is based around tips.
-The main source of income is very hare-brained and fragile depending on the consumers.


you'd realize the fallacy of claiming that a.) the underprivileged and impoverished are "lazy scum" that "abuse the social system," and b.) that this overtly ignorant and insensitive remark is a blatant generalization, and nowhere in the vicinity of being the "fact" you assert it to be.

I will make it a point to tell you that I personally know some of these welfare people. While most are white, there are a few that were of color and yeah, it happens.

-I know a family that feeds off of "disability", are a bunch of hogs and drug addicts and continuously abuse the system.
-I know a former co-worker whom fed off the state.
-I know of a "single" mother that stayed unmarried to milk the system when she had another great job in teaching.

So please do not sugarcoat the issue by claiming all of these people are angels and are demonized when in reality, they are as bad as anybody else, but are given the allowance to feed off the working class and above by the government truly.

I suggest you begin acquainting yourself with some of the recent statistics on poverty, subsistence, the misery index, unemployment, social security

Unemployment is based around the people whom are on the benefits, so if you fire them and or they drop from them , its a fallacious study.

Poverty as you said is a broad swath as you claimed, however you seem to forget that poverty in America is not as bad as poverty in other more third world nations, because apparently, this great government of ours and the elite that rests in Hollywood builds schools in Africa and helps other nations' poverty, but turns their back on their own.

Either poverty is not bad as you claim , or the rich Liberal elite in and outside of government are neglecting their own people. I tend to go with the latter with a mix of the former.

http://money.cnn.com/2012/06/25/news/economy/food-stamps-ads/index.htm




and the Obama administration's allocation of federal funds and before you run off at the mouth with this vitriolic, dehumanizing trash.

Dehumanizing? The government dehumanizes people constantly every day according to race, gender, ethnicity, sexual orientation and creed and has only harmed the middle class.

http://www.redstate.com/reinceprieb...ght-under-obama-middle-class-has-been-buried/

And Let's not forget how Obama destroyed the African American middle class as well:

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-black-middle-class-is-suffering-2012-10

So much for his plans, is there?

http://spectator.org/blog/2012/07/10/yes-obamas-spending-happened

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/aug/23/stimulus-price-tag-rises-again/

For whatever reason, it seems like the biggest mouths are always attached to the smallest brains,
I see it all the time on the Left, as they have the largest holds on the media [books, movies, comics, TV] and shout their vitriolic nonsense all the time.

If the Left really cared about the poor or the downtrodden, explain why they themselves aid the spread of poverty in this nation through their support of social services, taxes , regulations and the corrupt unions that make it harder to become successful and easier to live in an impoverished state. Let alone for the poorer people and the recently released criminals, many of whom by the way are minorities.

There was a period in American culture and history where being dependent on the government or anybody [unless you were old , young or disabled] as a parasite was looked down upon and where people had the dignity to stick for their self reliance and the right to be independent from an oppressive government.

and they're often the ones most insistent on participating in discussions of fact-sensitive topics. I'm really beginning to dislike you.

I don't really care if you like me or not, so much as I can say what needs to be said about all these misconceptions you have concerning the "poor" in this country and why those of lower class have lesser options.

I'll blame poverty from government bondage as a significant reason.
 
I will make it a point to tell you that I personally know some of these welfare people. While most are white, there are a few that were of color and yeah, it happens.

-I know a family that feeds off of "disability", are a bunch of hogs and drug addicts and continuously abuse the system.
-I know a former co-worker whom fed off the state.
-I know of a "single" mother that stayed unmarried to milk the system when she had another great job in teaching.

So please do not sugarcoat the issue by claiming all of these people are angels and are demonized when in reality, they are as bad as anybody else, but are given the allowance to feed off the working class and above by the government truly.

I'm not going to deny there aren't people like that. However, again, you are making the logical fallacy known as the hasty generalization.

Just because you know a few people, does not mean that it is correct to assume everybody using programs provided by the government are all scumbag leeches. Just like it's not correct to assume they're all good people.

EDIT: On another note, how the hell did this spawn from a discussion about Minnie Mouse developing severe anorexia?
 
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I think rather than continue debating this polemic I'll go do something with a logical outcome, like bang my head against a wall.
 
I had beef and rice today and plan to walk a few laps around the parking lot at work. I may be a chubby bastard, but that doesn't mean I can't be healthy and look sexy with it.

Basically, the middle ground is the best place health wise, but it doesn't mean you will have a perfect figure. Eat food, walk laps, don't over do it on either one. This is good yes?
 
I'm not going to deny there aren't people like that. However, again, you are making the logical fallacy known as the hasty generalization.

Just because you know a few people, does not mean that it is correct to assume everybody using programs provided by the government are all scumbag leeches. Just like it's not correct to assume they're all good people.

EDIT: On another note, how the hell did this spawn from a discussion about Minnie Mouse developing severe anorexia?

I know, right?

We should flirt some more.


Bigdog gets carried away with fallacies and Google Search.
 
Yeah, I can get carried away with Google Search too sometimes.

I'm googling pick-up lines right now.

That was twice as awesome.

What did you find?

Do you believe in love at first site, or should I post again? Cheesy wordplay, do something...


I'm an advocate for "My love for you is like a truck, Berserker!"

This will get me all the ladies right? Right guys?

Maybe. Be sure to report back to us.

It might score you an anorexic mouse girl.

:laugh:
 

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