Why Americans don't want universal care? I just don't get it!

It's getting harder, even harder to pass health care now because we now got Senator Brown took late Ted Kennedy's senate seat this week, people vote him, because he promised that he will kill health care bill.

Ok..? That got me very angry with people. People deserved to have that universal care. I've been prayed so harder for this health reform to be finally passed, to become a law, to require for all Americans to have health insurance.

Here's a hard part that I don't understand: Health care around the world, citizens are to required to get health insurance. Why can't this country do the same what rest of world do?

To Americans, they think that government is going to running Health Care, that's frustrating me the great deal. Americans just don't want health care reform to passed at all.

What does that say people around the world? What's their take on this? Do they understand? Or they don't understand why Americans protested this health care bill?

More than 700,000 Americans went bankrupted because of this, while citizens around the world never went bankrupted. What's your take on this? I'm just asking the questions, that's all. So many questions wrapped around my mind.

Only stupid people don't.

Conservative talk radio has done a reaaaaaaly good job of misrepresenting health care reform, and the Democrats did an absolutely ****-tastic job of shutting the **** up and writing a clean, simple bill that they could explain to the public. So, as usual, middle America is all riled up about **** that they shouldn't be riled up about, not riled up about **** they should be riled up about, and big corporations continue to exploit the political process like they always have.

I'm starting to fear that we're always going to be a nation of short-sighted sheep.

OverdrivePrime said:

Conservative talk radio has done a reaaaaaaly good job of misrepresenting health care reform, and the Democrats did an absolutely ****-tastic job of shutting the **** up and writing a clean, simple bill that they could explain to the public. So, as usual, middle America is all riled up about **** that they shouldn't be riled up about, not riled up about **** they should be riled up about, and big corporations continue to exploit the political process like they always have.

I'm starting to fear that we're always going to be a nation of short-sighted sheep.

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I wholeheartedly agree.

And in short; Rich conservatives want to keep getting richer and let the poor suffer. I should know, my father is one of them. He talks so much **** about the people the healthcare reform would benefit, yet he shut up real fast when I told him that without that LunaTrigger and I can't have health insurance. We simply cant afford it or doctor visits.

Rich conservatives for the most part are idiots.

I've watched way too much C-SPAN than is healthy over the past couple of months that I've been laid off, so I think I have a unique perspective in this since I've watched the house and senate debates. Here are my thoughts. Keep in mind that while I may be generalizing, I am not saying "all" or even "most". But certainly enough for politicians and pundits to influence to their will.


1. Some Americans have a superiority complex. We've been told since birth that we are the greatest country in the world, for various reasons. Many times America is great at humanitarian aid, defending other lands and ours, and creating an environment for pretty much anyone to succeed. However, we tend to try to forget or gloss over some of the really bad things America can do when it suits it's purposes. Some jaded individuals would even say everything America does is for the soul purpose of controlling the rest of the world. There are examples of this, yes, but those are from people that I believe are evil, but justify it through capitalism, etc, and warp what the true foundation of America was all about. Or they take it to it's fullest extent and logical ends. Something to ponder. Hmm...

Now, you can see that if other countries around the world have universal health care, there would be some that would say "well that doesn't mean we have to do it! We're America. We lead, not follow!" In some areas, yes. Most of the world does look to the United States as an example of the best of humanity and opportunity and freedom. But it can take a long time to get there and overcome racial, ethnic, and stereotypical divides. I'm guilty of it myself, so I'm not saint.

2. Some Americans are easily scared.
Other arguments are that it would cost too much. They use codewords like "government takeover" or "gov't run" since the government certainly can't do anything right. Despite the fact that these same politicians are the government that supposedly can't do anything right. I happen to like that I can still mail a letter and it gets somewhere across the country in two days. Or that while I'm looking for a job I can get a meager check to cover some expenses. Or that I can type this rant and not have police show up at the door to "ask me questions."

Some politicians will say things like "we can't even afford Social Security, how can we afford this" and then turn around and say "OMG, they're going to cut Social Security!" whenever someone even mentions doing something different to get off the path of it going off a cliff. So which is it? Do you want the socialist Social Security or not?

I haven't had the toughest life, but it's been far from easy. But no matter what, I'd rather be here than somewhere else. I often wonder how or why I was born in Chicago in this time period and not someplace like Haiti now or South Africa in the 70's or Vietnam in the 60's. Or hell, even in America in the 1800s. Something else to ponder...

My personal view is that the budget should be torn up and started over. And I'm not just talking about Obama's. I'm talking about everything that has been allocated and authorized for centuries and reauthorized and retooled. Just start over from scratch. In my head it shouldn't be that hard, but I know in practice if probably would be. If someone was looking at the budget "line by line" like the President likes to say, then someone would have seen more than a few line items that get passed over or just plain missed because there are so many expenditures and programs that have to be funded for the welfare of the state, or simply funded for the benefit of some schisters that tricked enough people into electing them.

I wouldn't be surprised if the government always runs a deficit because they base the budget on projected revenue, then when the time comes, they either overspend, a disaster happens, or they plain don't bring in as much money as they thought, and the surplus one year can be a deficit the next. However, you have things that still need funding, so you have to spend a little more, and another disaster happens, and the hole gets bigger and bigger.. And because it gets so big, some sneaky pols think “well it’s so big now, no one will notice if I give a company a little bit here and there.â€

Supernovametalstar said:

1. Some Americans have a superiority complex.

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That's true, but I don't think it's part of the problem in this situation. Polling has suggested a majority of the public realize our healthcare system is crap, and want to be like other countries.

I wouldn't be surprised if the government always runs a deficit because they base the budget on projected revenue, then when the time comes, they either overspend, a disaster happens, or they plain don't bring in as much money as they thought, and the surplus one year can be a deficit the next.

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We could be well on our way to balancing the budget. Unfortunately, Obama pissed away his entire first year trying to reach out to the Republicans. The Republicans, who are so desperate to kill any piece of legislation supported by Obama that they're willing to kill proposals they themselves made! How about we use our majority while we have it and get something done. Anything.

This is about free health care, right? What's wrong with it?

MaskedShuuyu said:

What's wrong with it?

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It hurts the insurance companies, who have bought our politicians. So, everything is wrong with it if you're taking money from lobbyists. For the rest of the country, sucks to be us.

Hey, do you want some of our NHS? You can't have any of our NHS. It's my NHS.

MaskedShuuyu said:

Hey, do you want some of our NHS? You can't have any of our NHS. It's my NHS.

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