Who the heck thought Liveman 31 was a great idea?

But pro-life "propaganda". What does that mean? Like I said, I actually like the point of the episode. It's not a bad character episode for Junichi in one sense. But it's just the pregnancy bit that made things stupid to watch.

Because "pro-life" is nowadays used to mean "anti-abortion". And that movement uses many of the arguments that Junichi was given in this episode as to why he shouldn't harm the "baby", even though its presence was forced upon him - enough said. I wouldn't go so far as to say this episode was deliberately made with an anti-abortion message, but the similarities are strong enough that it's understandable why a present-day viewer in the west would be uncomfortable with the episode.
 
This was one of the worst episodes of a Super Sentai that I've ever seen, possibly the worst; certainly the most inappropriate, as even at it's most "mature", a show about superheroes in spandex beating up on dudes in rubber suits is not the time nor the place to engage in pro-life propaganda.

Because that's what this episode was. And it is also noticeable that Megumi, the only woman on the group and hence the only one who would ever have to worry about going through the real life version of this episode's plot, has next to nothing to say. This episode was an ugly affair, misguided on every level, and just should never have happened.

Seriously, Junichi's baby, while inside him, begs him not to hold the violent nature of his origin against him. That is just...I can't deal with this episode, it is inexcusable, that's what it is.

Because the media often does not have a Leftist bias or isn't ran by a leftist majority?

I have to take Leftist propaganda each time I turn on the television , so how is having a pro-life message where the villains obviously do not care about life in any form , but it makes you absolutely nuts when a program dares to have a "right-wing" point of view? And that's undeniable in many respects, because it seems that those who hold contrary viewpoints are just supposed to numbly shove the Leftist agenda down their throats . All the while, those preachers are on their pulpits allowed to say anything or everything they want that if someone of a contrary worldview does or says the same exact thing , they are hounded and defamed. And that's not considering when those that are of contrary view and challenge the preconceived and bigoted notions are discriminated against for convenience.


I swore Liberals were supposed to be open-minded and tolerant individuals, no?

Funny thing about pro-death advocates is that, when you really look at the development of people until they reach 18, the same thing can be argued that since they "leech" off the parents for support and a home and are not fully developed yet as people, they have zero human rights. So what about those with disabilities or those of a racial minority? When does it end?

Its utterly hilarious when people bitch and moan about a show ,let alone a series that values life and where the message to help others is at its core. Or rather, when shows try to explore mature themes and hold itself seriously. What's inexcusable is that people like you go insane over a message that's actually good , but not necessarily handled correctly, but then want and demand maturity and more mature themes in Sentai and Kamen Rider.

People want maturity in their shows, but then make off-handed comments when it doesn't fit their belief system necessarily? No wonder why no one dares listen to the fans without being wary. They sound and act like a bunch of raving lunatics that are never satisfied when they get what they want and instead pick it into pieces.



Because "pro-life" is nowadays used to mean "anti-abortion". And that movement uses many of the arguments that Junichi was given in this episode as to why he shouldn't harm the "baby", even though its presence was forced upon him - enough said. I wouldn't go so far as to say this episode was deliberately made with an anti-abortion message, but the similarities are strong enough that it's understandable why a present-day viewer in the west would be uncomfortable with the episode.

It's still a great message, since in real life, its not the baby's fault for existing. That lies heavily on the consenting parties if there are any, and if not that , the rapist him/herself.

The message is very clear that killing a life that had nothing to do with its choice in origins , like all people alive posting on this forum today, is utterly unethical regardless of the circumstances.

I wish it was handled better, but in another way, its a great step. Why should shows like Sentai be mere numb and dumb kids entertainment [that talks down to kids nonetheless] and not be for the family?
 
I wish it was handled better, but in another way, its a great step. Why should shows like Sentai be mere numb and dumb kids entertainment [that talks down to kids nonetheless] and not be for the family?

I won't argue the perspective, because it's such a delicate matter; but we all bring our own biases and perspectives when we watch something. If someone feels strongly about this particular subject, it's understandable that they may be upset by the episode. For me, body horror unsettles me (particularly if it relates to pregnancy, which is plenty invasive and dangerous enough in the real world) that I don't relish seeing a character being suddenly forced to play host to an alien parasite for dramatic effect. I can almost see why the storyline might have been written the way it was for an audience in '70s Japan, but I also can't blame anyone in our little corner of the fandom today who doesn't like watching it.
 
I'll be watching this episode for the first time here in a bit, but from everything I've heard about it, it really does fit Liveman's themes so far.

The team is called LIVE-man. Yes, they're pro life, they'd always be pro life. That's their entire shtick.
 
Well, do keep in mind that you are watching the show from a 21th century Western point of view.

Ofc, nowadays stuff like this wouldn't be possible anymore. But back in the 80's people were more free to do what they want with an episode.

Also Westerners are more prudish than the Japanese and definitely shocked easier if it comes to stuff like this. e.g. in Japan you can see nude babies or young children in TV commercials. Furthermore, in Europe we see nude women, breasts on TV or on advertisement boards along the roads the whole time. It's pretty much the same thing.

Abortion (being pro-life or pro-choice, how they like to call it in the states) is really not an issue in Japan, or Western Europe for that matter. It is something common, even something people like to joke about. And nobody would be offended.

I think it's a great and daring episode. And hell, it was hilarious. And making a funny episode was probably the whole point.

Liveman was way to dark. This is prolly the main reason why they added those 2 new characters, of which Junichi, Green Sai. His first episode was a silly one. It really lightened up the show. And I'm pretty sure no-one was offended by it back in the day.
 
It didn't end with the alien suddenly bursting out through Junichi's stomach. That's something, I suppose ...
 
It didn't end with the alien suddenly bursting out through Junichi's stomach. That's something, I suppose ...

That would have been awesome..then give the show a Giger feel where Megumi is left to fighting the Volt creatures by her lonesome, saving her lone kitten. All after finding out that Colon purposefully tried to impregnate the Livemen in order to do more studies on Volt.

I won't argue the perspective, because it's such a delicate matter; but we all bring our own biases and perspectives when we watch something. If someone feels strongly about this particular subject, it's understandable that they may be upset by the episode. For me, body horror unsettles me (particularly if it relates to pregnancy, which is plenty invasive and dangerous enough in the real world) that I don't relish seeing a character being suddenly forced to play host to an alien parasite for dramatic effect. I can almost see why the storyline might have been written the way it was for an audience in '70s Japan, but I also can't blame anyone in our little corner of the fandom today who doesn't like watching it.

I guess we're pretty different, because I loved the Alien movies when I was much younger. To me it depends on how it is handled, and I feel they wanted to do a reverse Alien, where the Volt baby is good.
 
That would have been awesome..then give the show a Giger feel where Megumi is left to fighting the Volt creatures by her lonesome, saving her lone kitten. All after finding out that Colon purposefully tried to impregnate the Livemen in order to do more studies on Volt.

It would also have been a blatant Alien knock-off :laugh:
 
I'll be watching this episode for the first time here in a bit, but from everything I've heard about it, it really does fit Liveman's themes so far.

The team is called LIVE-man. Yes, they're pro life, they'd always be pro life. That's their entire shtick.

This is one reason Liveman's among my favorite Sentais. Not because of the message of this particular episode (which is good) but because the whole show was about the heroes of Life, as the OP says, and eugenicists fighting for Death, who hold nothing sacred but their own sense of superiority. (Also interesting to note that the Trio was among the best of the best academically, while our heroes weren't as much but definitely had better morality.)

And I want to emphasize that this one episode didn't offend me with its execution. I just think it could have been done better. Even without one of them being host to a monster.
 
It would also have been a blatant Alien knock-off :laugh:

The Space Sheriffs were based around the hype of Star Wars [ had a spaceship, alien origin and lightsabers to boot] and in fact much of the sci-fi sentai were around that sort of being with the times , so to me, it would be an honestly funny thing to see.

As long as they aren't dancing in a Bollywood tune into a shark's mouth like in the knockoff version of Jaws, I'm fine with anything.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFCpXQv6JlY&feature=player_embedded"]Aatank aka Bollywood Jaws 1996 - YouTube[/ame]
 

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