VR Troopers/Beetleborgs

Vitor

When The Fruit Of Life Corrupts Men
Okay, this question has been on my mind for quite some time and I've even discussed it at length with one of my friends. Do you think it would have been a far better idea if Beetleborgs had simply been a continuation of the VR Troopers storyline or is it fine how it is?

I mean I know it would be a pretty big leap from Supersuits to bug armor, but that could always be easily explained through plot
 

Kivat

Some kind of Beast mode
Naaah, I like them as separate forms of toku. That way you had different flavors to choose from. They're both Metal Heroes, but both have they're little legacies and traditions I feel that should stay for them.

I only wish these shows were more successful during their run. I liked them. Anything that involved a suit transformation I watched.
 

Storm Eagle

New Member
I find myself talking about this a lot, but B-Fighter was actually going to be used for a third season of VR Troopers if it ever happened. They ended up canceling VRT anyway, and then ended up making it BeetleBorgs.

If VR Troopers did go a third season though, at least Ryan, J.B., and Kaitlin wouldn't have to split up as much. I also would have liked to have seen how the Black Beet (Shadow Borg)/Kabuto (White Blaster BeetleBorg) thing would have been handled for VRT, and even the New B-Fighers (Astral Borgs)/B-Crushers (Mantrons) if it went a fourth season. I also wonder if Grimlord would have been replaced completely, or if he'd be in the form of Gaohm (Vexor).

As for the troopers using armor modeled after beetles, there was something about a scarab in a two-parter from the second season of VR Troopers. So that was probably a way of setting up for the third season, like how the Zeo crystal in MMPR season 3 was a setup for Zeo.
 

Vitor

When The Fruit Of Life Corrupts Men
As for the troopers using armor modeled after beetles, there was something about a scarab in a two-parter from the second season of VR Troopers. So that was probably a way of setting up for the third season, like how the Zeo crystal in MMPR season 3 was a setup for Zeo.

Oh, well I was just thinking that they would write something about the armor suits getting corrupted by a computer virus and turning into bugs
 

FreedomR8G6B1

New Member
Blue SWAT would have made even less sense as a third season than Beetleborgs

I remember where folks suggested to use the Rescue Mission Series (Winspector to Exceedraft)...heck no...that makes even lesser sense than Blue SWAT. And they can't use Janperson cause Beetleborgs already used them.:sweat:

I'd expect everyone would've been pissed if something like Gavan be used. Then again, since Shaider was used...might as well use the rest of them.

PS: Don't even get me started in regards to Sen Ninja Jiraiya.:sly:
 

Bigdog

New Member
Blue SWAT would have made even less sense as a third season than Beetleborgs
I would have done for VR Troopers:
-Season 3. Winspector /Jiban
-4 Solbrain /Jiraiya
-5. Exceedraft /Jansperson
-6.Blue Swat.

The show couod have gone until at least four more seasons, unless Jiban and Jansperson were their own with Jiraiya. Why Jiraiya you might ask? Its virtual reality and a video game, so why not?
 
VR Troopers works backwards. Big Bad Beetleborgs works forwards. Here's the problem with VR Troopers, they work with cheesy live action Japanese kids shows from the early 80s when it was the early 90's. Barely any of the props exist. They had to depend on outdated stock footage.
 

Storm Eagle

New Member
VR Troopers works backwards. Big Bad Beetleborgs works forwards. Here's the problem with VR Troopers, they work with cheesy live action Japanese kids shows from the early 80s when it was the early 90's. Barely any of the props exist. They had to depend on outdated stock footage.

The use of B-Fighter would have made it so that they wouldn't have to use outdated material anymore.
 

FreedomR8G6B1

New Member
VR Troopers works backwards. Big Bad Beetleborgs works forwards. Here's the problem with VR Troopers, they work with cheesy live action Japanese kids shows from the early 80s when it was the early 90's. Barely any of the props exist. They had to depend on outdated stock footage.

Beetlborgs worked because B-Fighter had a sequel series and a Metal Hero Team Up...heck, they could've used Kabutack if they wanted to.

VRT, "virtually" pulled a Robotech...yet for some reason it worked...then the Shaider stuff was added in.:sly:

With that said...with Toei's revamp of the Space Sheriffs...might was well as use Type G and the others and do an New Gen VR Troopers...heck, have them team with Power Rangers since they just did it recently in Japan...lol

Why Jiraiya you might ask? Its virtual reality and a video game, so why not?

Saban has a tendency to f'ck up ninjas...let's not go there. I didn't mind Janperson and Gun Gibson being "Good Beetlborgs Monsters":sly:

Unless you want the dog or the nerd or perhaps the crazy boss that likes marshmellow nachos to turn into a heavy metal ninja.:laugh:
 
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Bigdog

New Member
Saban has a tendency to f'ck up ninjas...let's not go there. I didn't mind Janperson and Gun Gibson being "Good Beetlborgs Monsters":sly:

Unless you want the dog or the nerd or perhaps the crazy boss that likes marshmellow nachos to turn into a heavy metal ninja.:laugh:

Why? If they f'ck up ninjas, wouldn't it be hilarious?

Also turning series about outer-space heroes into virtual heroes like the Matrix? They can easily do that.... now if these shows aired recently, they could totally pull of Supah Ninja crossover.
 

FreedomR8G6B1

New Member
Why? If they f'ck up ninjas, wouldn't it be hilarious?

Also turning series about outer-space heroes into virtual heroes like the Matrix? They can easily do that.... now if these shows aired recently, they could totally pull of Supah Ninja crossover.

I blame Saban turning ninjas into fish...and Disney for injecting the X-Games into Ninjas (though they had a legitimate excuse...they owned ESPN)

Also turning series about outer-space heroes into virtual heroes like the Matrix?

I get it...Makuu Space makes a good backdrop for Grimlord's Virtual World. But must we get every Metal Hero involved...next thing you know...Saban will end up adapting Zaido.

...they could totally pull of Supah Ninja crossover.

Oh boy...:eyebrow:
 

Bigdog

New Member
I get it...Makuu Space makes a good backdrop for Grimlord's Virtual World. But must we get every Metal Hero involved...next thing you know...Saban will end up adapting Zaido.

Zaido isn't a metal hero and the effects, suit work and choreography are so crappy that it makes the early Saban era look like James Cameron's Avatar by comparison. I doubt Toei would allow them to use it. The choreography from modern Saban era almost parallels the Japanese version, and why woudl he want to devolve to something so......shoddy?

They would have to remaster the footage to a good quality [if not filmed in HD], but really, they might as well just make a new show that has better suits and effects work based on that premise. Because they seriously needed a Japanese designer and a budget for the suit, and to rid of the sopa opera element.

If Zaido was like the Bima or Armor Hero, I can see that , but that? Heck no. They might as well adapt Bima as a Power Rider.

Oh boy...:eyebrow:

Why not? We got crossovers in the Saban days with the Turtles. Better than crossing with Fred , Tuff Puppy, iCarly or other shows on the network.
 

shamrocknroll

The Ranger with the Cowbell
VR Troopers works backwards. Big Bad Beetleborgs works forwards. Here's the problem with VR Troopers, they work with cheesy live action Japanese kids shows from the early 80s when it was the early 90's. Barely any of the props exist. They had to depend on outdated stock footage.

After rewatching both. To me it's this.

VR Troopers use too much stock footage, while BBB uses too little stock footage. Take the pilots for example. The bad guy in Beetleborgs doesn't show up, just the suits (don't know if it is stock or not but my guess is that it's not). In VR Troopers THE BIG BAD LAUNCHES AN ASSAULT ON EARTH RIGHT FROM THE GET GO. That lasts at least 5 minutes
 

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