Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen - TALK UP!

[Arkvoodle]

I didn't see who voiced Wheelie in the credits, but the whole movie I thought he sounded like Starscream in Transformers:Animated.

It was kind of distracting, actually. I hate when "Hey! It's That Guy!/Voice" moments take me out of what I'm watching and trying to enjoy.

Well, you were right. Wheelie was voiced by Tom Kenny, who played Starscream in the most recent Animated show.


Kenny also voiced one of the Twins- Skids if I recall correctly...

 

[KingRanger]

I liked this, although I think I prefer the first for quite a few more reasons. The first just had something special the second didn't.

It still amazes me once again, that Internet Transformer fans don't seem to understand, even after TWO movies, that this movie is pretty much solely made for kids born and raised in the 80s who watched the cartoon, not for the superfans who have watched every single Transformer cartoon ever. When the cartoon first came out, it was huge, it was the big thing of the 80s, no one gave a **** about the 'Japaneseness' of it or the 10 shows that followed it, most people probably don't even know the later existed. You are not the target auidence the Internet, you may be large in numbers, but you're completely outweighed by the regular people.

Kids on the other hand, they'll buy anything because they're stupid. Kids like Spider-Man 3.

I hardly call myself a super fan, and I grew up with it in the 80's. I was 11 when it started, but I still grew up with it. G1 wasn't the end all be all, but it was a fun watch. I didn't like this movie because it was badly written trash. And the kids that grew up back then arn't kids anymore.

 

[Arkvoodle]

And apparently R2-D2 makes a cameo in this film.


I'm serious.

 

[Skyknight]

Originally Posted by MaskedShuuyu View Post
I liked this, although I think I prefer the first for quite a few more reasons. The first just had something special the second didn't.

The first one honestly isnt special at all. Explain to me how car chases and running is special? ROTF had a more unique journey for the characters which pretty much put it head and shoulders above the first. People DID something in this movie.

It still amazes me once again, that Internet Transformer fans don't seem to understand, even after TWO movies, that this movie is pretty much solely made for kids born and raised in the 80s who watched the cartoon, not for the superfans who have watched every single Transformer cartoon ever.

You're pretty much wrong on all fronts there.

The Fallen is a character that only superfans would actually know about, he never appeared in the cartoon, Megatron never had a visible master or answered to anyone.

The Fallen wasnt true to his comics counterpart, but he acted very much like The Leige Maximo, in the comics, he was the inspiration for The Decepticon cause and speculated to be Megatron's father. His scheme to use the sun's energy to become a God is borrowed almost straight from "Allignment", a novella Furman wrote years ago as an epilouge to the Marvel G1/G2 continuity and it's seen as the spiritual prequel to Beast Wars. Again, this is **** only superfans care about.

Other aspects, such as the "War of the Primes" having a similar backdrop to Beast Wars, would also apply to superfans more than casual G1 fans. ROTF was "Transformers for Dummies", a crash-course in an abridged version of the mythology for the mainstream thrash, but a lot of it came more from the comics and Beast Wars than it ever did the G1 series.

You are not the target auidence the Internet, you may be large in numbers, but you're completely outweighed by the regular people.

..."Regular people", pppft, as if that's a compliment

I love how the "Gay for Bay" fans act like the internet is a completly different species. I don't go near the Transfans because of other reasons, but many of the better ones are very much thinking like Hasbro almost all the time...how you can something meatier and make the kids watching feel like the toys represent an oddisey.

Kids on the other hand, they'll buy anything because they're stupid.

Kids arent stupid. People who make that accusation like a "know-(sh)it-all" arent too far off the mark though.

And my kids didnt like Spider-Man 3.

Same goes here. That show really was quite intended for us who watched the show in the past.

No it wasnt. It was trying to be for the superfans as much as the mainstream trash, part of why I appreciated the use of the lore and Sam's journey.

 

[Poweranimals]

Box Office Mojo is reporting that this made $60 million for opening day. Not too shabby.

 

[KingRanger]

Box Office Mojo is reporting that this made $60 million for opening day. Not too shabby.

Yeah and we all know that the ammount a movie makes = how good it is.

 

[Lustful Butchery]

King, your sig is gospel, man.

 

[Exo_Kopaka]

It's funny how people were complaining about the first film not having enough robot action, how Starscream and them were just "thrown into the mess" at the last minute, and how they never really cared about the fans, and how there were "too many human scenes".

Yet, this film did the exact opposite, and people are now complaining about the pacing and plot development. WOW.



Am I the only one that missed the epic moments that were in the first, such as Blackout landing and a whole "OH ****!!!!" moment when he transformed, and how Bumblebee and Barricade had a RIVAL fight scene? I mean, even though there were less Transformers in the first one, I still liked how iconic each scene was, and how well fleshed out they were. I really miss how the Autobots in the first were considered the "underdogs", and the Decepticons were the serious badasses of the film. TF2 really felt like they just threw it all into a blender for more massive fight scene.

However, I'm not going to hate on TF2. It was pretty badass. I loved the robot fight scenes. They were pretty well done. I just wished Epps and Lennox got more screen time as they did the first. Seriously, they should make THEM the main characters.

 

[HaiTien78]

were you expecting a beast wars-esque/G3 type story and tone?

You know as much as I enjoyed Mudflap, Skids, and Wheelie, I'm kind of reminded now of how much everyone kinda hated Wheelie and other annoying transformers like Blurr in the first place. :laugh:

We're you expecting your autobots to be talking like "Damn bitch that **** was hella crazy nigga"?

 

[The 2nd Evil]

My Revenge Of The Fallen View Count: 2

Imax Theater Count: 1

I need to see more movies in Imax.

This was the first one I've ever been to.

You're pretty much wrong on all fronts there.

The Fallen is a character that only superfans would actually know about, he never appeared in the cartoon, Megatron never had a visible master or answered to anyone.

Thanks for this. I had no idea who The Fallen was and where and how he fit into the Transformers mythos.