To the original poster, I say unto thee: motherfuck D&D 4th edition right in its stupid ear! Ugh. If I wanted to play World of Warcraft, I'd have played World of Warcraft. I tried playing a 4th edition game for a month, with some pretty cool guys that I game regularly with. It sucked balls. It was like playing a video game, just really slow. We found it to be terribly simplistic. The mechanics leave a lot to be desired. If you're tired of D&D 3.5, move on to Pathfinder.