The Official 'The Dark Knight' (July 18, 2008) Thread

...lol

Well, the movie's inspired me to watch some of the actors' other work (Candy for Ledger, American Psycho and The Machinist for Bale, I'm Not There for both, Black Dahlia and Thankyou for Smoking for Eckhart) :D
Already saw 10 Things I Hate About You, Brokeback Mountain (both good), The Patriot (not bad) and A Knight's Tale (sucked) so there's not much left for Ledger, and it looks like Eckhart really hasn't been in many other good movies :(
 
I'm just gonna leave this here

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...UNDER Speed Racer?

What the HELL are you smoking?

Just...I know, I should be respectful...actually, **** that. I just watched a true Batman movie and a classic superhero film with definitive performances by great actors...no way am I not taking this fracking insult lightly

UNDER Speed Racer? I love Speed Racer, but it's absolutely NO "The Dark Knight", this movie embarrased a lot of what Marvel have produced over the years. Spider-Man looks more outdated now because of this movie, the closest Marvel have to competition is The Incredible Hulk, and even that and Iron Man was inspired greatly by what Nolan accomplished with Batman Begins, this will be the movie that forces Marvel to wake up and push harder in the direction comic films are goin right now...and none of it will EVER, EVER, by Ghost Riding Christ, EVER..be UNDER Speed Racer.

Batman can easily be fucked up. Burton fucked it over with Batman Returns (no plot and too dark), and Schumacher clubbed it with an iron. Hardly anybody likes "The Batman"...so where are you getting this **** from? Sorry man, but you're full of it.

Speed Racer and Iron Man are fun larks, they don't make you THINK, they don't make you BELEIVE in a very serious situation...a city that is losing it's soul and it's inhabitants are forced to play the devil or angels, and beleive that they are right in their actions no matter where it pulls them. There is more inspiration from the speeches about hunting heroes and chasing cars than there will EVER be in cars chasing each other and making wise-cracks in a suit of armour for two hours...that's a cakewalk for a good director, but more appetiser for the laziest kind of audience.

This is the most respectful version of Gordon, Batman, Alfred, The Joker and Dent ever portrayed in cinema...period. Speed Racer really has nothing on this, it wasnt as faithful as you think, and certaingly came off as Lazy Town PORN compared to this, which is a TRUE Batman movie.
I thought it was incredible. My only gripes are with *how* real it was. I think they went so realistic that it doesn't leave much room for the expansion of the Batman mythos...

Batman is the most grounded hero in comics, the combination of realism and comic elements are barely seperated to make it look like it can happen...the only thing you can't expand on in the Batman mythos is fracking Bat-Mite.

Comic movies OUGHT to be reallistic.

I want a World's Finest movie and a JLA.

Those are immensly gay ideas that would rob the franchises of any credibility or scope. The majority of comic fans know those ideas are crap both on paper AND in execution.

I'm so glad this fanbase isnt pandered to. SO glad.
 
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While I appreciate the idea of making things relatable, at some point one has to realize that realism defeats the point of fantasy. That's not to say that fantasy is an excuse for bad writing or not thinking concepts through or making fun of the source material with cheap and cheesy wink-wink gags, but at the same time if I want reality I can go outside. If I'm going to engage in fantasy I'd like to see something different.


Batman Begins in my opinion was a lot closer to hitting an equilibrium that I think fits for Batman whereas Dark Knight, like a lot of the modern comics unfortunately, is very enamored and obsessed with its own darkness, sadism, and "realism" to a degree that divorces it from the previous film almost entirely. I know it's the same crew operating in the same continuity but this felt totally inorganic. Obviously he enjoyed the movie whereas I did not, but I think Keith makes a very good point.
 
Yeah guys it's so real. I mean every night I see millionaire playboys dress up as an animal, go out in super vehicles with all kinds of gadgets, and fight homicidal maniacs. I mean yeah it's so real. :shakefist
 
There's room for reality and relatability in the characterizations...but we're really paying to see a guy put on a costume and kick butt, right?
 
Still, I doubt it'd be that great if wearing a costume and kicking butt is all there is to it. Look at how far toku have come in regards to building up their characters.
 

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