The Amazing Spider-Man - Talkback

People complain about everything, if they do the same "origin story", then they'd say "MEH! SEEN THAT ALREADY!"... Douches...
 
People complain about everything, if they do the same "origin story", then they'd say "MEH! SEEN THAT ALREADY!"... Douches...

Well, they didn't have to repeat the origin, everyone knows how Spidey got his powers. They could work with that just like in "The Incredible Hulk" and move along with the story.


Anyways, I have just watched it and here is my "official" thoughts about it.

Things I liked
- The characters interpretations, no matter how changed they were from the original they were played wonderfully. Andrew Garfield played this rebel Parker brilliantly, even if I don't agree with this version of the character I cared about him and it was wonderful. Uncle Ben stole the movie for me, he is a way better character than the original one. And I liked how the "With great powers comes great responsibilities" was inserted subjectively.

- Peter and Gwen romance was cute and worked pretty well. Mark Webb has the grip in romance and it just felt right.

- The "discovering the powers" part was very well don, I liked how they made a parallel with normal adolescence changes.

- The 3D in some scenes worked very well, specially the night portions and the swinging around.

Things I disliked

- A lot of elements that make the Spider Man comics good were missing, like the fact that Peter dorky and awkward personality, the fact that Peter's family is very poor and they struggle with that, how being Spider-Man fucks with Peter's personal life, The Lizard being a mindless beast that CAN'T TALK OR THINK, Connor's family (even though mentioned in the game). Other elements were said but not proven like Gwen's intelligence. They say that she is brilliant but at ANY point in the movie we see that.

- The 3D overall was very poor, some scenes worked well but most part of the movie I though I was watching a 2D movie.

- The "cheapness" of the script. Since the beginning of the movie it looks like the whole world revolves around Peter Parker: Peter is classmate with Gwen that works for Connors that knows Peter's mom and dad whom created the cross-species program that gave powers to Peter and transformed Connors into the monster. It feels forced and cheap.

- Almost all the interesting parts from the trailers and promo materials (like the "you want the truth about your parents Peter? Come and get it") were left out of the movie. In fact, it looks like they were ready to give us the answers for the questions they threw but at the last moment someone said "I have an idea, cut the explanation scenes we will make it a trilogy!", reminds me a lot of Yonemura deciding to not reveal Narutaki's identity in SuperHero Taisen. A lot of questions were left in the air and that bothered me.

- The after credit scene was completely passable, not like the Marvel Studio's movies nothing was foreshadowed so that the viewer would care about that scene. And it was nothing specific either, that man can be ANYONE. If failed to build the hype.

I liked it, it was not that bad as I thought it would be but it is not Amazing as the title says. It relies more on the characters than on the story and that is a problem. The first half of the movie was outstanding but the lack of answers and the poor finale (the complete opposite of Spider Man 3) turned the movie into a forgettable one. Maybe I'm too spoiled by Marvel Studio's movies but, for me, The "Average" Spider Man takes a 3.5/5. Hope that the sequel gets it right.
 
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I agree with the things you liked, except the 3D (I didn't see it in 3D as I'm not a fan of it, or the extra price. $10 was already more than enough...) and I, at least, get most of the things you disliked, but that script isn't what I'd call cheap.

The fact that the character interpretations were all easily distinguishable, realistic & had great dialogue attests to that alone. There were a few things that I found cheap (the crane scene, the nods to scenes from other marvel films & Superhero Movie & Flash, who was interesting & well written but who's turnaround was rather unbelievable to me) but the script was incrediby tight, everything brought up amounts to something & it sets up a great possible trilogy. I'm really looking forward to where the second film goes that will show how Osbourne ends up becoming the Green Goblin, presumably in the third movie. I also have to say that the psychological journeys of each of the characters (Peter, Gwen, Connors & Mr. Stacy) was done perfectly. It was natural & never for a second felt forced, stretched out or random.

To other writers out there, I don't think I have to tell a single one of you how difficult that is or how much time & energy went into this script to achieve that.
 
Actually, I thought the scripting was one of the weaker aspects of the film, one that was fortunately compensated for by great characterization on the part of the leads, fantastic visual design and competent directing.
 
...I'm alone in this, aren't I?

Anyway, to try and simplify and/ or clarify, I'm not saying it's anything like "The Dark Knight" or similar stories, but what was done with it was done very well. I don't think it can't be improved upon, otherwise I wouldn't be looking forward to a sequel, but I thought it was done well enough to be a stellar first film.
 
Well, they didn't have to repeat the origin, everyone knows how Spidey got his powers. They could work with that just like in "The Incredible Hulk" and move along with the story.

There are a lot of explanations to this. First, you are aware of the concept of "Retconning" in the comic-book world right? It has happened countless of times already in the comics, writers get a new creative team, restart the character history to add new (more modern and trendy) content to keep the story interesting. Just look at "Ultimate Marvel".

Sony probably found rebooting the franchise a better option than rehiring everybody from the trilogy, since younger stars like Andrew and Emma are surely cheaper to hire, then you might ask, "why reboot so early?" Then the answer to that is Sony is required to release a Spiderman movie regularly to keep the rights to the franchise.

So considering these 2 points, it makes sense why they made Amazing Spiderman the way it is, it is just up to the viewer whether to find it worth seeing or not... And honestly, seeing much of the reviews (after watching the movie myself of course), I can see that it truly was worth the money.
 
Initially, I was 'meh' about this film when I heard it was going to be a reboot, but ended up getting hyped and wanted to see it. I ended up really enjoying it a lot. I don't care what anyone says, I walked out of the theater with satisfaction. And I think I prefer Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker/Spider-Man more than Tobey Maguire.

Who was the mystery man talking to Dr. Connors at the end?
 
Nobody knows, but I'm guessing Electro because of the lightning in the background. :laugh:

That's the theory my friend came up with, but I'm not feelin it. He sounded kind of old, and had a "boss" type vibe.

Now the hat is what intrigued me, why did they cut to the hat..I can only assume the hat is/was essential to a certain villain in the comics.
 
I'm hoping it was Mysterio, next movie needs him or the Chameleon Twins from the Ultimate universe to get the city back against him.
 

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