[TALK] The Man with the Iron Fists

I was watching Sucker Punch in two very detrimental conditions.
Very Late in the night, wanting to sleep.
With Russian voiceover, because I wasn't the only one watching, but I was only one who could understand english well enough to watch movies.

While second one didn't really get in the way of watching, it did tarnished the experience.
The first problem was much more influential, since my brain was simply too tired and I couldn't physically watch action sequences. It was like some sort invisible barrier prevented me from looking at the screen directly during those scenes. So only thing I really got out of it was story.
 
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I was watching Sucker Punch in two very detrimental conditions.
Very Late in the night, wanting to sleep.
With Russian voiceover, because I wasn't the only one watching, but I was only one who could understand english well enough to watch movies.

While second one didn't really get in the way of watching, it did tarnished the experience.
The first problem was much more influential, since my brain was simply too tired and I couldn't physically watch action sequences. It was like some sort invisible barrier prevented me from looking at the screen directly during those scenes. So only thing I really got out of it was story.

Ooooooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaay... So how does your post contribute to knowing which is better between Charlie's Angels and Sucker Punch?
 
You guys must not understand how fun this is

1. It looked good
2. It had pretty girls in it
3. The action scenes were decently conceived

If you can look past the heavy-handed narrative style and Zack Snyder's predilection for abominable film soundtracks, it was a fun romp.
1. So did tree of life and it still was pretentious crap
2. For it's time so did Charlie's Angels, If you want to see pretty girls in skimpy outfits go to a strip club, or a con :laugh:
3. when they weren't as confusing as a transformers movie yeah

Charlies Angels had LL Cool J and Bill Murray, where's your god now?

Right? I thought it was visually stunning. It had obvious flaws, but I saw what they were trying to do.

What a videogame from the 90's? Random levels making no sense just there cause were pretty, they even had the generic Snow time and fire levels.
 
You guys must not understand how fun this is

I derive little enjoyment from debating with the blind, deaf and chronically confused.


1. So did tree of life and it still was pretentious crap
2. For it's time so did Charlie's Angels, If you want to see pretty girls in skimpy outfits go to a strip club, or a con :laugh:
3. when they weren't as confusing as a transformers movie yeah

Charlies Angels had LL Cool J and Bill Murray, where's your god now?

1. wat
2. That's egregiously debatable. Personally, I don't find any of the trio of leading ladies attractive, with the exception of Lucy Liu, and even then I could find a better looking Asian chick by joining the math club at my university. I'm also not sure what "for its time" is supposed to mean. Charlie's Angels was only made roughly a decade ago, which is nowhere near enough time for the sort of sociocultural shifts that determine women's appearances and men's physical preferences to take place, and even that is a tenuous position from which to argue beauty.

And yeah, hot girls exist everywhere, so why watch movies at all? Let's just walk in a straight line until we collide with one.

3. I can't really address this point with accuracy, as I haven't seen any of those glittery epileptic technophile Transformers movies (because I have a tenth of a brain), but most of the action direction in Sucker Punch managed to stand out from your standard, brainless blockbuster movie fair, and a few of the setpieces despite any contentions of incoherency or genericism were fairly elaborate in terms of costuming, set design and good ol' fashioned physicality, which is more than can be said for any movie that can be made on a Macbook. You don't seem to be truly challenging this point so much as just making a comparison to something that everybody already knows is worse, though, so maybe item 3 could be omitted altogether.

What a videogame from the 90's? Random levels making no sense just there cause were pretty, they even had the generic Snow time and fire levels.

I would think that a guy posting on a Tokusatsu forum on a username with a video game system abbreviation in it would be more appreciative of those kinds of nods whenever he encountered them. It was obvious Snyder was trying to inject quite a lot of video game sensibilities into Sucker Punch (each unique situation being presented as a "stage", complete with individual objectives; special items requiring collection to unlock a specific event). The way it reads and the actual execution are of course very different, but all in all I would argue that it was more of a success than it was a failure.

Besides, the real stars of Charlie's Angels are Crispin Glover, a hodge-podge visual style bastardized from a dozen other trending films and Drew Barrymore's speech impediment. I win.
 
What a videogame from the 90's? Random levels making no sense just there cause were pretty, they even had the generic Snow time and fire levels.

Well what I saw was a mix of film pop culture, within a film. Each portion being blown exaggerated and far-fetched, but also clean and beautiful. Idk, as an artist I was heavily digging the visual aspects.

And the way it was all just a dream? That was deep, you know..and meaningful...right? lol
 
You guys must not understand how fun this is


1. So did tree of life and it still was pretentious crap
2. For it's time so did Charlie's Angels, If you want to see pretty girls in skimpy outfits go to a strip club, or a con :laugh:
3. when they weren't as confusing as a transformers movie yeah

Charlies Angels had LL Cool J and Bill Murray, where's your god now?



What a videogame from the 90's? Random levels making no sense just there cause were pretty, they even had the generic Snow time and fire levels.

1. Haven't seen Tree of Life, probably because the way it was marketed just didn't seem to fit my interests. Sucker Punch on the other hand...

2. But the way the girls are portrayed in Sucker Punch was more logical in a imaginative sort of way. Charlie's Angels on the other hand had the characters dress up in illogical costumes for the sake of fooling jobbers which didn't make sense since it was set up in a world pretty much like ours (of course their world had a little bit more exaggeration), whereas Sucker Punch had the girls in costume in imagination land. :sweat:

3. Transformers obviously didn't have sense, its focus was more on the effects and not the characters, Sucker Punch on the other hand didn't have that great of a story, but it did have depth in the sense of the viewer translating whatever the characters experience into a dreamlike sequence. The plot may have been as shallow as a milk spilled in your kitchen floor, but the story still made sense, but more for a movie short or an episode of a sexified Twilight Zone.

And I don't get how Bill Murray and LL Cool J is supposed to make Charlie's Angels better other than being some sort of comic relief which didn't seem to be needed for a movie like Sucker Punch. You were probably joking and I completely missed your point, but what the heck.
 
Ooooooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaay... So how does your post contribute to knowing which is better between Charlie's Angels and Sucker Punch?

It was supposed to... somehow. But somewhere along the lines of writing the post I forgot to get to the point and then I forgot about the post itself.
 
The Alley fight was choreographed by Corey Yuen...it is 10x better than any fight scene in Sucker Punch...:buttrock:

While I may agree that that Charlie's Angels fight scene was awesome, it practically didn't make any sense to work in the real world (since it is the setting of Charlie's Angels, even with the exaggerations). Most moves totally defy the laws of physics, gaining enough power to do something without the needed momentum. Whereas in Sucker Punch, it was within a dream sequence, so it works. And yeah, that Charlie's Angels fight scene being better is your opinion, since my opinion is this fight scene trumps that.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXpo0_N3zpY"]Sucker Punch Robot Fight HD - YouTube[/ame]
 

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