What the hell do you mean, not a valid reason? What the hell is a valid reason to you then? So if a show threw in a zillion Riders that did nothing, you wouldn't have a problem with that?
Being a Rider is simply not enough, especially dropping one liners like you and the other guy are doing. Fine a specific reason or don't butt in.
If your going to bitch more, I'll just repeat my earlier statements ad naseum.
Again, this absurd "uuhhhh they're not doing anything anyway" defense. My God, do you hear yourself? Because they're useless already, let's make them more useless? The lengths people will do to defend idiocy. I really can't deal with this anymore...
Thank you for conceding that you have absolutely no "substance" to stand on in a protracted argument about the worth of Sasword, Drake and TheBee. They contributed little to the story baring their own specific deviations in minor arcs, they didn't tie into ZECT, the Natives, the WORMs or anything else as well.
You have nothing.
I spent the whole thread doing that. Go back and reread.
Do your work for yourself, and show it. All I've heard from you so far is " IT LACKS SUBSTANCE ITS JUST FIGHTS MY FAVORITE RIDERS DIDNT DO ANYTHING " ad infinitum repeatedly throughout this thread.
A giant asteroid crashed into Earth, depleted almost all the water on the planet and turning it to a desert, and left behind an army of Worms to wreck havoc on humanity. I would call that an apocalyptic or post-apocalyptic setting.
1999 Shibya Asteroid only took out most of a city. God Speed Love alternate had it taking out most of the world's ocean but even then there is no confirmation of a "massively" Mad Max style setting at all.
So all you have a invalid association fallacy to try and say its not the same as what you like, therefore its incompatible as a theme to the series. Which is a darker and sterner outlook then say Den-O or 555.
Good to know.
To who? You? Why isn't it a valid reason? If you don't care to explain yourself, then I don't care to explain that to someone who is going to pick and choose what to accept as a valid reason. I could just write off your entire post because I really don't see any valid reasons in it.
You never explained your reasons. Just like Black Fang, your just arguing they should be more revelent when they have nothing to add and your bashing the writers for not pulling some magical miracle even though they still sastified Tsurugi and Daisuke with a smaller but vital tie in.
Do what you want but nothing so far you said is at all helping you in my eyes.
Using the powers of the other Zecter makes them useless because they're taken from the original holders. While not the worst idea for a weapon - I would have liked a plot dealing with the death of a Rider cause his Zecter was taken during a battle - it just had horrible execution for the most part.
And you've just sniped your own argument. Gon was given Drake's Zecter because Daisuke had no further use for it nor wanted it in the first place to Tendou, Tsurugi willingly gave up the Sasword for money to help out his family's financial debacle and TheBee had no Rider.
Kabuto is self explainatory, and Gatack nor the Hoppers are affected by it. Again your complaining it didn't do something you wanted to see pan out, therefore its a bad concept despite the fact that both the Hyper Zecter and Perfect Zecter are for each other.
Daisuke a Kamen Rider in a show that focuses on Kamen Riders. Him being a Kamen Rider is plenty reason for him to be involved with the main plot, yes, he had a nice story with Gon, but the fact that after that, he went awol for ten episodes at a time with nothing tying him to the plot.
No it's not. This is the same as complaining that because Toriyama left behind Tenshinhan from the Senshi in the Dragon Ball manga isn't "fair" to Tenshinhan's fandom because he's a fighter like Gohan, Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Kurrin, ect...
And Daisuke's story was resolved early in the story anyway, so it seems more like your grasping at nonexistent straws rather then addressing a reason on again why he should've done more. And he still did compared to Tsurugi considering he got the mini arc with Rena.
Which you have repeatedly ignored.
At least with Tsurugi, who I don't think was totally wasted (he's the only Rider I think had a total story in the series), he had a connection to the plot by being friends with Kagami. Daisuke's stories really had no overall bearing on the series and were without build up.
Worms are connected to Kabuto's past as well as Dark Kabuto's past. The same with Gatack, Sasword and Drake. Tendou had it, Kagami had it, Tsurugi had it, Daisuke is no different in that approach.
That's the thing, TheBee shouldn't be useless, make another character TheBee, Tadokoro would have been a great replacement for Kageyama, but instead the thing just flew around having no purpose other than waiting for Tendou to give it some Perfect Zecter love.
TheBee was used by more characters then any other Zecter in the series: Yaguruma, Kagami, Kagayama and Mishima. TheBee was an antagonist/rival/opponent of Kabuto/Tendou for the entire run of its life between those three (with exception to Mishima who doesn't give a **** about anyone).
How did this pass your notice? Kagami gave it up because he no longer viewed himself as a rival to Tendou, Kageyama was fulfilled the role of TheBee when it was vital to the story as a counter point to the other protagonist Riders
- Kidnapping Gon and forcing Daisuke in several situations such as putting Tendou, Kagami and Tsurugi against him
- Breaching a deal with Rena to take out Tendou and Kabuto to keep TheBee
- Targetting Kagami several times to eliminate him and Kabuto in various mini arcs through the series on Mishima's orders
It fulfilled its purpose more then adequately.
Like I said, I don't Tsurugi because I actually liked his comedic episodes, they were endearing and gave me a bit more of a reason to really care for what he was going through. Even when he wasn't a Rider, he was doing something, but people like the Hoppers walked around talking about hot darkness and becoming more ridiculous by the episode. Yaguruma started off as one of my favorite characters, Masato Uchiyama and Hidenori Tokuyama are my two favorite tokusatsu actors, so those roles in the latter part of Kabuto were just a total waste. The only part of that story I thought had good execution was the final episode for them, but even that was rendered unimportant because it affected no one that they were gone.
Tsurugi and Kagami as well as Renge fulfilled comedic background during the story. That's cool, it went down and was executed well so it's no problem. Yaguruma struggling with his devestated philosophy and views because of Tendou and Kagami's actions went AWOL before changing himself and the end does more or less point out with Shun that he went back to his original role.
Hell you can see it creeping back to Sou when he had a crush on amensia affected Rena. Even Dark Kabuto got to get revenge on the Native Leader for screwing his life up.
