Forever Knight
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Incredible.
**** Saburo Hatte... It's Shotaro ISHI fucking NOMORI
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Incredible.
Hidden Masta
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But thats because there in Japanese!.....I don't understand them.....
Alcin91
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I meant even the Japanese themselves don't give much of a **** to it.Furthermore some of their names are in kanji,what,you expect a kid age 3-10 to know that kind of kanji to be able to be called a true toku fan?
I think they are happy enough if they could remember the names for the actresses and actors and mecha names
Forever Knight
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I think it's awesome how many many years later we are talking about these guys.
Thattts when u know ur an Icon.
Ishinomori & Tsuburaya.... The best of the best.. of the best. :castlerock:
Thattts when u know ur an Icon.
Ishinomori & Tsuburaya.... The best of the best.. of the best. :castlerock:
The thread was out of topic after a naive kid start to mention that Ishinomori is the the god of tokusatsu.
Hirayama Tohru did more work for tokusatsu series and movies at Toei but you probably never know him since you haven't really know most things related to tokusatsu history(maybe someone need to write a book about Hirayama Tohru biography in English and I hoped that person is August Ragone).
As far as I concerned, Hirayama Tohru is humble man who never get more credit(from Toei, of course) for all the great work that he had done at Toei.
Without him, most likely Kamen Rider, Kikaida, Sentai and other tokusatsu series by Toei will never be created. Ishinomori probably just another comic artist in Japan who will probably spend his entire life just drawing comics for magazine since Hirayama can find other comic artist instead of Ishinomori to create the hero.
At one time, there are some clowns at Toei want to kill off Kamen Rider character, it was Hirayama who want shrug off their suggestion to kill Kamen Rider. Imagine if Kamen Rider was killed in the series, probably there will never be other sequels too(I once saw a comic that showed Kamen Rider being blown up into pieces).
Hirayama also rejected Skull Man design from Ishinomori for Kamen Rider. If the design was used, Kamen Rider won't be a popular series since the design is not suitable as a hero for children programme(most likely it is because the economy in Japan just recovered after World War 2, so most Japanese doesn't like anything that remind them of the war since their life just improved).
During the Showa era, most of the tokusatsu series and movies from Toei are the major contribution of Hirayama. Ishinomori just draw the character of the hero but the rest are the work of Hirayama and the group that he led(the one with the weird name SH).
I prefer Hirayama Tohru name in the opening credit instead of SH but most likely there are some clowns at Toei don't like him so much so they insisted the name SH.
Even Kamen Rider Spirits is based on original storyline from Hirayama for Kamen Rider ZX series. Instead, there is only one TV Special was made by Toei in 1984.
Even the Japanese called Hirayama as the "Father Of Kamen Rider" and he is now at Red Entertainment Deliver Corporation(it is Toei loss when he left them in 1990).
Tsuburaya Eiji is the creator of tokusatsu and it was Hirayama Tohru who continued his work in the development of tokusatsu after that. Ishinomori was just part of a team that was leaded by Hirayama.
More information about Hirayama and the creation of Kamen Rider, just read the following thread(I think most members forgot about the existence of this thread which is the best thread ever made, I just had to bring it back):
http://forums.henshinjustice.net/newreply.php?do=postreply&t=18423
I don't want to know your age. But your statement clearly showed you are a naive kid who doesn't know most part of tokusatsu history. If you are not interested in tokusatsu history, then better stop replying this thread since you are just like the other naive kid from the small island in Asia.
If you interested to know more about Tsuburaya Eiji, better buy and read the book by August Ragone. Otherwise, stop typing nonsense statements here, kid(don't understand Japanese is not an excuse either).
There are some naive kids here will not interested in what you informed them here.
Most of them probably just typed:"I just watched tokusatsu series and movies and I don't even care about who created them."
Most likely these people are just supporter of bootleg tokusatsu series and movies.
Probably they won't even buy licensed DVDs of tokusatsu series and movies in their entire life. No point discuss tokusatsu history with them since they are naive about it.
This clearly stated that you don't know the history of tokusatsu.
You are just another naive kid making statement.
Since the series and movies created by Japanese. It is up to the Japanese to decide who is the "God Of Tokusatsu". The Japanese decided the
title belong to Tsuburaya Eiji and not other Japanese. Even Emperor Hirohito gave Tsuburaya Eiji an award known as Japan's Order of the Sacred Treasures for his services to Japanese culture.
It is the same like most Americans regarded Abraham Lincoln as the greatest President of all-time or most Britons regarded Winston Churchill as the greatest Prime Minister in their country.
History is something that you cannot changed at all. So if most of the Japanese called Tsuburaya Eiji as "God Of Tokusatsu", you should just accept it, kid.
Here is one blog about Tsuburaya Eiji book by August Ragone:
http://www.powells.com/review/2007_11_17.html
If you don't want to read, better considered yourself as naive about tokusatsu history.
By the way, only naive kids like you doesn't want to know the history of tokusatsu. A true fan will know tokusatsu history instead of just watching tokusatsu series and movies(there are probably just 15% of them in are here compare with 95% of members at Generation Kikaida forum. The members at GK really know many things related to tokusatsu).
"Showa era Kamen Rider is also known as Hirayama Kamen Rider since he was the "Father of Kamen Rider". All the ideas of Kamen Rider are from Hirayama and Ishinomori just helping him to create the character."
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Alcin91
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Erm okay..so?So what if awards were given before to whoever crap that they think is god.Ok,Japanese made tokusatsu...so they gave award,we are supposed to listen to them.
Cool,but this kind of thing IS a personal opinion.I'm not a naive kid making a stupid statement.This kind of thing don't even require you to know the whatever bloody history of toku.
All you have to know is,IF you watch this guy's work,you like it more than some other god,then that guy is your god instead.
What i am trying to put across is...EVERYONE HAVE THEIR OWN GOD IN THEIR HEART.
Oh so Eiji is the God of Tokusatsu...but i am a toku fan that don't watch Ultraman or any of his works.How am i supposed to be convinced?Watch it?No way,it's my OWN opinion.
Since you like to bold noble statements,here's one for you.
"Never pick on people's personal preferences,they like it,they call it.You have no shitty right to forcefully change it."
And if you're going to fight back with more crap,then you're more naive than me.Because you are naively thinking that with your legendary lecture,you can make people accept Eiji being the god.
Accept it,so what if the Japanese gave him award?Does that mean he must be a god in all toku fans?We are the audience,we watch what we like,we claim anything as we like.Just because Japanese gave him award,i'm supposed to change my god in my heart into Eiji,that's just stupid.It's like you being a dog,wagging to every Japanese's words.They are also human.
We have our opinion,we stand by it.Eiji can be your god,but not everyone's.
Oh by the way,i don't give a **** of how 80 or 90% of the Japanese thinks of the god.I'm not them and never will try to "act" like them.Naive in toku history,i find it laughable.There's no point knowing its history,you just watch what you like,that's the job of the audience.
That is your problem, kid. You cannot accept history facts.
You can keep writing about nonsense here but not everybody will bother about it too.
You don't have to watch Godzilla or Ultraman to know about Tsuburaya Eiji, there are books about him sold in the market. Anyway, a naive kid like you don't want to read it. It is your own choice.
A naive kid like you is even worse than a pig.
By the way, the last part of your comments are just like words coming someone who is racist so I have to reply the above to you. Usually I don't use any words related to animals in forums.
"Showa era Kamen Rider is also known as Hirayama Kamen Rider since he was the "Father of Kamen Rider". All the ideas of Kamen Rider are from Hirayama and Ishinomori just helping him to create the character."
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Alcin91
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It's not about history dude.Can this history bring you out to life?Can it guide you to life?No.It's not essential to my life.It's not like i will die if i don't want to accept history.
If i am worse than a pig just by not wanting to accept history facts,how about telling it to people worldwide who also don't accept history facts as well?
Only people like you dwell in the history and bath yourself in "history" to make yourself seem like a genius.
Dude,the future is what that matters.You can continue to bath in history glory but the problem is you have to live in the future.
Keep bathing in history facts while others move on.
If i am worse than a pig just by not wanting to accept history facts,how about telling it to people worldwide who also don't accept history facts as well?
Only people like you dwell in the history and bath yourself in "history" to make yourself seem like a genius.
Dude,the future is what that matters.You can continue to bath in history glory but the problem is you have to live in the future.
Keep bathing in history facts while others move on.
There are things in this world just happened because of history. You will find out about that someday, kid.
"Showa era Kamen Rider is also known as Hirayama Kamen Rider since he was the "Father of Kamen Rider". All the ideas of Kamen Rider are from Hirayama and Ishinomori just helping him to create the character."
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