Quantum of Solace Becomes Top Bond of All Time

Die Another Day sucks, but if you cut everything out of it except for the sword fight then suddenly it's awesome. So I'll at least give it that. And Moonraker is cheesy fun, and enjoyable for that. There's nothing enjoyable about Casino Royale.

To you yes, to others no. In otherwords opinions. Your opinion is not the gospel truth deal with it there's always ALWAYS going to be people who disagree with you no matter if you are part of the majority or minority. I know Bolt is going to say something about me saying this.
 
Hell, I'm going to say something about you saying that. The number of times you've posted your opinion as gospel truth and bashed others for disagreeing with you is insane, and you want to call me out on it?
 
Casino Royale and QoS were just Bond flicks i enjoyed a lot more than the older ones so u guys can bash me all you want and i still wouldn't care....:laugh:

btw, this is maybe my last post in case it gets LOCKED...:laugh:

Or maybe in case you get banned for your pathetic Trolling?:redface2:

Ohhhh, I'm sorry; I can't take the opinion of anybody who likes Diamonds Are Forever seriously.

Oy, DAF's theme song is a nice little diddy about penises, cut it some slack:sweat:
 
[HIDE]Ah, numbered lists! I love this type of argument.

1. If we're going to talk about being "beaten down," you were the one that concluded the semi-thoughtful QoS discussion with the infinitely numbnuts statement "Ohhhh, I'm sorry; I can't take the opinion of anybody who likes Diamonds Are Forever seriously."

I mean, really? That's the best you could do even with your infinite knowledge of all things Bond and the uncanny ability to pull arguments out of your ass? That would be like me saying "I can't listen to anybody who masturbates to the intro to Changeman." If you couldn't think of anything else to say, you could've just conceded or admitted that the movie was horseshit, and if you didn't want to say anything else, why did you bother replying?

2. I'm sorry I have no concept of how old you are. Should I have guessed higher? If so, you're not helping your case. And what does me throwing out an arbitrary age-guestimate have to do with math anyway...?

3. I guess if I had pussyfooted and said "I didn't care for the prescribed backstory, nor the motivation for what should have been a pivotal character in the film's narrative" it would've been considered a valid rebuttle. But since I decided to tell the truth, which is that a good portion of the movie's contents blew big, meaty chunks, I suppose I'll have to live with the fact that I also have terrible discussive capabilities. Ah well.

4. See 1. If you didn't prefer to discuss any further, why not just drop it instead of going out of your way to make yourself look like some kind of butthurt "talk to the hand"er? I assumed by your lack of continued analysis you had run out of meaningful things to say. And I was probably right.



If you consider copout argument-exits to be humor, then you're right, I don't get it. Maybe if I talk to you long enough I'll be well-versed in the ways of issue dodging, and then we can have a serious conversation... or not.

And by that token, I remember Shougo before he was an opinionated b'stard just for the sake of being an opinionated b'stard. I might be disagreeable, but at least I'm consistant.[/HIDE]

Wow, Bolt, overreact much? I'm disappointed. When did you become such a nasty bastard? Did you grow bitter all those months you were banned? How many times is it now that you've been banned for annoying people to no end?

Yes, the conversation was semi-thoughtful until you chimed in. You see, you've developed a bad habit of disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, so I tend to not think you're worth responding to seriously anymore. You can't accept that some people prefer a movie you don't like to a movie you currently do; you felt the need to respond condescendingly. Lately, you're never interested in a serious discussion. You're only interested in trying to get a rise out of people for some sad reason. I should have listened to my instinct and not responded to you this time, as I've tried to ignore you so often lately. FTR, I recall a previous Casino Royale topic that was killed because you thought "everyone was thinking about it too much." So, why waste the time with you? I could have taken the time to explain why I liked Quantum of Solace, but it wouldn't matter when you'd respond with something brilliantly observant such as "it blows chunks" and disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. (BTW, one can disagree without being disagreeable -- a trick I think you should learn.)

The way you go against the popular view for the sake of seeming "cool" or whatever, is just an act that's grown old, and it's clear now just how pathetic it is. Ordinarily, I'd feel somewhat sorry for the way a person has to build himself up like you do, getting off on arguing on the interwebs like you do, but in your case, you've become such a nasty, immature twat, it's impossible. Word of advice: it's unwise to ridicule someone for liking a "kids show," yet act as immaturely as you do.

But you have one last surprise -- the first genuine laugh from one of your posts in quite a while! When you said you're "consistant" (sic). You've flip-flopped more times than an epileptic thrown down a flight of stairs at John Kerry. I'm sure if the consensus was how sucky QoS was, you'd suddenly have been defending it and slamming Casino Royale, just to go against the norm, be on the outside, keep pretending to be "cool."

Eagerly awaiting Bolt's typically nasty, condescending "rebuttle" (sic). Because you're predictable like that.
 
Allright, this is going just a bit too far. No personal attacks, guys. If you want to discuss the merits of either of the two Bond movies, let's do that, but we're not here to go after each other.
 
Hell, I'm going to say something about you saying that. The number of times you've posted your opinion as gospel truth and bashed others for disagreeing with you is insane, and you want to call me out on it?

I put out my opinion in a more outlandish and protruding manner always ending with "Go on believe what you want to", but sure lets go with what you say. Yes I have done that and variations of it (depending on how far you like to exaggerate) and am I gonna deny it right now? No, was it right for me to do such things? No. Just because I've done it, or anyone else has done it, doesn't give you any such right to do it. Two wrongs do not make a right, enough with your "You did it to so I can do it all I want" cop out argument.

Also lets end the direct attacks, I had a feeling the moment this topic was posted that a shitstorm will brew involving a few choice users.
 
I didn't say I could do it, nor was I doing it, HaiTien. I was stating my opinion. How you choose to react is your own business, but like I said, keep the personal attacks out of this thread.
 
To you yes, to others no. In otherwords opinions. Your opinion is not the gospel truth deal with it there's always ALWAYS going to be people who disagree with you no matter if you are part of the majority or minority. I know Bolt is going to say something about me saying this.

Actually, I agree. I think some people have very bad opinions, but unfortunately everyone is entitled to one. While I fail to believe that Vengeance was being 100% serious when he said there's nothing enjoyable about Casino Royale, he has the right to think that and there seems to be a fair amount of people that think QoS was better for whatever reason (probably drugs), so I'll have to live with it.

Shougo B'Stard said:
Wow, Bolt, overreact much? I'm disappointed. When did you become such a nasty bastard? Did you grow bitter all those months you were banned? How many times is it now that you've been banned for annoying people to no end?

Yes, the conversation was semi-thoughtful until you chimed in. You see, you've developed a bad habit of disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, so I tend to not think you're worth responding to seriously anymore. You can't accept that some people prefer a movie you don't like to a movie you currently do; you felt the need to respond condescendingly. Lately, you're never interested in a serious discussion. You're only interested in trying to get a rise out of people for some sad reason. I should have listened to my instinct and not responded to you this time, as I've tried to ignore you so often lately. FTR, I recall a previous Casino Royale topic that was killed because you thought "everyone was thinking about it too much." So, why waste the time with you? I could have taken the time to explain why I liked Quantum of Solace, but it wouldn't matter when you'd respond with something brilliantly observant such as "it blows chunks" and disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing. (BTW, one can disagree without being disagreeable -- a trick I think you should learn.)

The way you go against the popular view for the sake of seeming "cool" or whatever, is just an act that's grown old, and it's clear now just how pathetic it is. Ordinarily, I'd feel somewhat sorry for the way a person has to build himself up like you do, getting off on arguing on the interwebs like you do, but in your case, you've become such a nasty, immature twat, it's impossible. Word of advice: it's unwise to ridicule someone for liking a "kids show," yet act as immaturely as you do.

But you have one last surprise -- the first genuine laugh from one of your posts in quite a while! When you said you're "consistant" (sic). You've flip-flopped more times than an epileptic thrown down a flight of stairs at John Kerry. I'm sure if the consensus was how sucky QoS was, you'd suddenly have been defending it and slamming Casino Royale, just to go against the norm, be on the outside, keep pretending to be "cool."

Eagerly awaiting Bolt's typically nasty, condescending "rebuttle" (sic). Because you're predictable like that.

I'm not really sure how I should respond to this. Part of me wants to make fun of you for being such a hypocrite (and a flip-flopper, guffaw), since you're basically doing exactly what you accused me of doing, which was:

1. Lay down an opinionated, possibly inflammatory post.
2. Boobytrap it with thinly-veiled insult and/or irrelevant jab at other poster's veracity.
3. Get defensive when they meet your bullshit with more bullshit.
4. Repeat.

This is all built on the foundation that you used to cheer me on when I would make a spectacle out of my disagreements with others, since obviously my sole purpose is to make myself look cool on a message board by disagreeing with everything that is met positively by consensus. Not to mention those times I had your back whenever somebody accused you of being argumentative or elitist or whatever people accuse guys like us of being. We're really not that different; if I made fun of you for that, I would effectively be defacing myself at the same time. Where does the vicious cycle end? :shakefist

The only difference I see here is that apparently when our views clash, I don't feel bad about cracking jokes about your argument points or observations, whereas you seem more intent on taking personal pokes at me and what you perceive to be my character. You see, I am consistent. I may change my opinion about a particular work on repeat viewings or when I've had more time to think about it, but my methods never change: bullshit is bullshit, and I call it as I see it. You, on the other hand, play amicable until somebody corners you on something, then you get your fur up and start howling, even taking it a personal level... that's something I wouldn't have expected from somebody usually so objective. It's like you're cool with people making harsh comments and criticisms (and even making them yourself) until one gets levelled at you, and then you start talking out of your other face. Traitor.
 
I still don't get how people say that. Casino Royale had a much better storyline (much, er... Bondier), worlds better action scenes, and drama with at least a little bit of substance. Craig's 007 in QoS was still the humorless tightass he was in CR, but since he hit on more than two women, everybody just assumes it was a better Bond film. :rolleyes2:

I guess it's the same argument as oldschool KR hating the Heisei shows because they're not formulaic enough.

I agree with you, you're right. You make some pretty good sense in this thread. XD


Disagree totally.

Me too.


& I agree HaiTien78, Die Another Day & Moon Raker just plain out sucked.
 

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