Kuuga and Agito, historically enemies?!

[Ryuutaros]

Guys according to a official Agito book stated that the overlords (God Twins, Light and Dark from AGITO) were the highest force from the Linto Tribe, and Unknowns in fact were Linto Warriors. And in Kuuga the 2 civilisation that had war with each other were in fact the Grongi and LINTO

So there is a possiblity that Kuuga and Agito were historically enemies, thus Kuuga's Ultimate Form is the Darkness twin and Agito's Shining form is the Light twin.
Get what I'm saying?

My theory,

In acient times, there existed two Linto people, who both rose to power with Light and Dark powers, when the Grongi attacked the Linto civilastion one person struck a deal with the Darkness twin to grant him the power Like the Grongi to defeat them, but in return he must help defeat the Light twin, or the power will turn him evil, but refuses and seals himself away in the tomb. Thus starting the events of Kuuga.

Short time after the events of Kuuga, the Dark Twin who has no more of Kuuga's powers revives evil Linto warriors and transform into monsters in the present day, the light twin seeing the threat before dying passes his Power of Agito to earth, thus starting the events of Agito.


Eventually Kuuga (Dark) and Agito (Light) will have to fight each other, but it never happened, because the humans who received the powers were not evil.

 

[Forever Knight]

Makes sense.

 

[MattComix]

Guys according to a official Agito book stated that the overlords (God Twins, Light and Dark from AGITO) were the highest force from the Linto Tribe, and Unknowns in fact were Linto Warriors. And in Kuuga the 2 civilisation that had war with each other were in fact the Grongi and LINTO

So there is a possiblity that Kuuga and Agito were historically enemies, thus Kuuga's Ultimate Form is the Darkness twin and Agito's Shining form is the Light twin.
Get what I'm saying?

Even if it is from Toei I don't think that makes a whole lot of sense. If Linto could henshin into Unknowns why would they have ever needed the create the Arkul belt and thus Kuuga to defend themselves from the Gurongi?

Also saying the twins of Darkness and Light were Linto doesn't really jibe with what the series implies. They seem to be very much more than just ancient humans who got really powerful. The implication is of slightly more..shall we say biblical proportion.


I could see it maybe if the stuff with Agitos and Unknowns is what occured AFTER the Gurongi were defeated the first time and the original Kuuga warrior was sealed up. I don't think they ever said that the Linto civilization ended right after the Kuuga warrior was sealed so who knows what could have went on after that.

Ultimately, even if somehow this were true we would essentially be talking about entirely different people rather than truly Kamen Riders Kuuga and Agito. Someone who was an Agito in ancient times and the Linto who was the first Kuuga. The characters we know would be more focused on going after the monsters that were killing human beings or potential Agito than fighting each other. Neither of them is the hot-headed fight first, ask questions later type anyways. We're talking Godai and Shouichi here.

 

[Ryuutaros]

What is up with TOEI any way they release information about rider histories but doesn't really make any sense :laugh:

TOEI doesn't makes sense with their information :laugh:

Oh I just took these information from TOEI, they don't make sense do they?

My theory,

In acient times, there existed two Linto people, who both rose to power with Light and Dark powers, when the Grongi attacked the Linto civilastion one person struck a deal with the Darkness twin to grant him the power of Kuuga and the belt to defeat the Grongi, but in return he must help defeat the Light twin, but refuses and seals himself away in the tomb. Thus starting the events of Kuuga.

Short time after the events of Kuuga, the Dark Twin who has no more of Kuuga's powers revives evil Linto warriors that can transform into monsters into the present day, the light twin seeing the threat before dying passes his Power of Agito to earth, thus starting the events of Agito.


Eventually Kuuga (Dark) and Agito (Light) will have to fight each other, but it never happened, because the humans who received the powers were not evil.

 

[Saejima Kouga]

Kuuga's super saiyan 4 form couldn't have been dark. Dark shows himself in Agito. ;

And who is this mysterious "person" that gives the Kuuga powers to dark? Seems to me like that single being should be able to wipe out everyone.

Hm.. seems like there are translation errors in there somewhere.

 

[Igadevil]

Guys according to a official Agito book

Which one?

 

[Ryuutaros]

Which one?

Many of the mini-Official encyclopedia books about Agito

 

[Igadevil]

Many of the mini-Official encyclopedia books about Agito

Like which ones? Titles, ISBN numbers, etc., or at least some pics of the covers. I'm curious because I have a lot of Agito books, but I've never seen this particular bit of information referenced in any of them.

 

[Kishu_Yu]

What is up with TOEI any way they release information about rider histories but doesn't really make any sense :laugh:

TOEI doesn't makes sense with their information :laugh:

Oh I just took these information from TOEI, they don't make sense do they?

My theory,

In acient times, there existed two Linto people, who both rose to power with Light and Dark powers, when the Grongi attacked the Linto civilastion one person struck a deal with the Darkness twin to grant him the power of Kuuga and the belt to defeat the Grongi, but in return he must help defeat the Light twin, but refuses and seals himself away in the tomb. Thus starting the events of Kuuga.

Short time after the events of Kuuga, the Dark Twin who has no more of Kuuga's powers revives evil Linto warriors that can transform into monsters into the present day, the light twin seeing the threat before dying passes his Power of Agito to earth, thus starting the events of Agito.


Eventually Kuuga (Dark) and Agito (Light) will have to fight each other, but it never happened, because the humans who received the powers were not evil.

yeah, they may fight but just for fun and friendly competition. hello? we are talking about POWERFUL KAMEN RIDERS here. of course they need to stay in shape to kick more evil butts, the more the merrier. or black rx and shadowmoon will interrupt the battle...

black rx: ok, stop that nonsense! no one's taking our place! right nobuhiko-san!
shadowmoon: roger that, kotaro-san! let's kick some butts!
kuuga ultimate: this should be fun, come. it's been a while.
agito shining: we don't need to worry, it's just to kill time.

black rx goes after kuuga ultimate while shadowmoon takes on agito shining. black rx and kuuga exchange punches and kicks over and over again, as shadowmoon and agito exchanges slashes using their shadow sabers and shining calibers respectively. as the battle continues, kamen riders 1 and 2 acted as commentators while v3, riderman, x, amazon and stronger are selling food and drinks to the audience. The said audience, composing of g3-x, gill, another agito, the ryuki riders, faiz riders, blade riders, hibiki oni riders, kabuto riders, den-o riders, ixa, arc and rey are enjoying the match of the century and placing their bets on their favorite competitor with super-1, zx, shin, zo and j managing the said bets and skyrider on the videocam capturing the footage. kiva came late and was scolded by the riders since the match has already started.

The match ended when black rx and shadowmoon unleashed their kingstone flashes, negating the shining rider kick and the "telekinetic flare" and bringing their opponents to surrender.

 

[Japaneseseriesfan]

yeah, they may fight but just for fun and friendly competition. hello? we are talking about POWERFUL KAMEN RIDERS here. of course they need to stay in shape to kick more evil butts, the more the merrier. or black rx and shadowmoon will interrupt the battle...

black rx: ok, stop that nonsense! no one's taking our place! right nobuhiko-san!
shadowmoon: roger that, kotaro-san! let's kick some butts!
kuuga ultimate: this should be fun, come. it's been a while.
agito shining: we don't need to worry, it's just to kill time.

black rx goes after kuuga ultimate while shadowmoon takes on agito shining. black rx and kuuga exchange punches and kicks over and over again, as shadowmoon and agito exchanges slashes using their shadow sabers and shining calibers respectively. as the battle continues, kamen riders 1 and 2 acted as commentators while v3, riderman, x, amazon and stronger are selling food and drinks to the audience. The said audience, composing of g3-x, gill, another agito, the ryuki riders, faiz riders, blade riders, hibiki oni riders, kabuto riders, den-o riders, ixa, arc and rey are enjoying the match of the century and placing their bets on their favorite competitor with super-1, zx, shin, zo and j managing the said bets and skyrider on the videocam capturing the footage. kiva came late and was scolded by the riders since the match has already started.

The match ended when black rx and shadowmoon unleashed their kingstone flashes, negating the shining rider kick and the "telekinetic flare" and bringing their opponents to surrender.

Errm, no... LOL