Kento Handa: Worst Kamen Rider Actor Ever?

[Aoiblue]

Handa > You.

Yeah, that's pretty much all I bring to the table. It's my opinion so I don't need to push a five page essay on you all, but I enjoyed his character portrayal a lot.

And I don't need to go into detail on what I'd do if I ever got him alone in a roo.... *cough*

Handa > You.

finally something short and sweet.
yes:
Hando > You XD

 

[KingRanger]

Ryotaro felt senseless, and well clueless for the most part. A goody two shoes who was just willing to do things for people. That to me doesn't make him a hero.

He did thing for people because he felt it was the right thing to do. That in and of it self is heroic. He put his life on the line, let his body be possessed, and changed as a person through out it. I don't think you really know what a hero is :/

 

[Black Fang]

No, I didn't do any such thing. Not every super hero media is about them doing the right thing, but that is what Kamen Riders are supposed to do.

Of course you did. What the hell do you think 'superhero' means? A person with some kind of special kind of power who take it upon himself to protect others from some threat. That would be doing 'the right thing', would it not?

Kamen Rider, just as any other superhero story, is more specific than that. You're just giving the most basic of the basic answer of what superheroes do.

He did thing for people because he felt it was the right thing to do. That in and of it self is heroic.

By that logic me helping a friend with schoolwork because I felt it was right for me to do would make me a hero.

 

[Adrienzo]

He did thing for people because he felt it was the right thing to do. That in and of it self is heroic. He put his life on the line, let his body be possessed, and changed as a person through out it. I don't think you really know what a hero is :/

I don't think the term Hero can be just applied to anyone but by your logic, almost every single Rider is a hero of some sort.

So what if Yaguruma went all nuts and crazy, he was willing to kill his only friend in order to end his suffering = Hero

Kusaka might have been some deranged maniac, but he heroically sacrificed himself to save the girl he loved = Hero

Even if Tendou was some arrogant bastard, he only did that to save his poor little sister= Hero

Mihara was also a wuss, but he did risk his life to fight Arch Orphenoch = Hero

Daisuke might be a pompous metrosexual but he agreed to kill Tendou in order to save a little girl's life = Hero.

Some might agree, some won't. But in all situation they've done something heroic but to me I don't even consider most of those examples to be heroes.

 

[KingRanger]

Of course you did. What the hell do you think 'superhero' means? A person with some kind of special kind of power who take it upon himself to protect others from some threat. That would be doing 'the right thing', would it not?

Kamen Rider, just as any other superhero story, is more specific than that. You're just giving the most basic of the basic answer of what superheroes do.



By that logic me helping a friend with schoolwork because I felt it was right for me to do would make me a hero.

Please don't tell me what I did or didn't do or say. I do not do that to you, so I will ask that you do not do it to me. I know what I meant, and I know what I was saying. You have a definition of super hero, I have one, and others have their own. Don't assume your definition of super hero is the only one there is.

If you liken saving the world, saving lives, saving humanity to helping with home work... Well there is little I can say to enlighten you on this further.

 

[Blade Dancer]

With regards to Kento Handa, his portrayal may have been a bit wooden, but to me, that just emphasized the character's disassociation with the rest of humanity. Takumi said it himself, he didn't have friends, because he was afraid he'd betray them. If you look at it through that lens, the deadpan and emotionlessness was really just Takumi attempting to keep himself in check.

 

[Inui Takumi]

I don't think the term Hero can be just applied to anyone but by your logic, almost every single Rider is a hero of some sort.

So what if Yaguruma went all nuts and crazy, he was willing to kill his only friend in order to end his suffering = Hero

Kusaka might have been some deranged maniac, but he heroically sacrificed himself to save the girl he loved = Hero

Even if Tendou was some arrogant bastard, he only did that to save his poor little sister= Hero

Mihara was also a wuss, but he did risk his life to fight Arch Orphenoch = Hero

Daisuke might be a pompous metrosexual but he agreed to kill Tendou in order to save a little girl's life = Hero.

Some might agree, some won't. But in all situation they've done something heroic but to me I don't even consider most of those examples to be heroes.

Fair enough, you have your own definition of a hero. IMO, I think some of those can be considered heroes. Cuz the way I see it, they dont have to be like a chivalrous knight or whatever to be a hero. Ryoutarou is an example. He risked a lot to save the flow of time. That does involve the greater good so I see that as a heroic deed.

But, the topic at hand is who is a good actor and who is a bad actor. Most of the people who are chosen to act in KR are amateurs with a lot of them having this be their first gig. Im pretty sure that this was Handa's second show. Takeru is the same situation. With that in mind, you cant expect the best performances throughout. But, I think that they, especially Takeru, did a decent job portraying the characters they were given.

 

[Aoi Kurenai]

Well it seems that I have stumbled in Den-o fan territory.

Well, I am a fan of Den-O, and I see it unfairly criticized it far too much.

It's not a difficult task, all he did was the Imagin's respective poses and let the Seiyuu take care of the rest. It wasn't done well compared to the superb Suit Acting done by the suit actors. Whenever Ryotaro gets possessed I don't feel that the characters were a part of him but just Takeru doing bad impersonations of the Imagins.

Um, no he didn't. :/ Takeru Sato completely changed the mannerisms with each possession, he was those other people. That's something a lot of other actors couldn't pull off. You're simplifying the performance far too much by saying all he did was their poses. When he was Momo, he had a cocky arrogance in his face and walked with self assurance like he owned the place, he was wispy and charming as Ura, as Kin he had strong posture and certain stoic air about him, though I will admit I always thought Kin-Ryou was the weakest of the bunch, he perfectly pulled off the child-like curiosity and movements as Ryuutaros, and that's something not every actor can pull off without looking out of their field, as Sieg, he was regal. Takeru Sato did just as good a job as the stuntmen and seiyuu did bringing the characters to life.

He's supposed to be an actor, the suit actors are stuntmen, and if stuntmen can pull off a more realistic character than him, really that shows you how bad most of these new-gen actors are. Ryotaro is the only part that Takeru had 100% control of. He had no one to base that off of, no help from Seiyuus and all he could do was transpose his voice by 3 octaves. His range as Ryotaro is as one dimensional as Kento Handa. Atleast Takumi felt like a real person, Ryotaro was a joke.

The stuntmen are supposed to bring to life the character just as much as the actual actor, suit actors are actors as well. Look at Kiva in and out of suit, it's a totally different character, look at Ryoutarou and his possessions in and out of suit, it's basically the exact same body movements. Kento Handa's Takumi was just a cardboard cutout that couldn't emote worth a damn, the character in essence was a good idea, but the actor sucked.

This show may not be filled with extraordinary actors, but I still found him to be the weakest link. Nakamura follows close behind. He's the star of the show and he really didn't manage to capture me as an audience. Wataru for the most part is a similar character, but I can care for Wataru. This might be the problem of the script, but like wise man once said, there's no small parts just small actors. He didn't make the character his own. I am sure they tried, in the beginning, to promote Takeru and have the Imagins play the supporting role. But those guys broke out, they were a hit, and they now embody what is Den-o and Takeru is just piggybacking on their success.

I can't bring myself to care too much for Wataru, at all, like others said, the only reason I slightly have interest in Wataru is because the cast members and characters around him make his situations more interesting to me. Koji Seto as an actor is just a poor performer most of the time. Takeru Sato by comparison is years ahead of him.

I find the term Hero is thrown around too lightly nowadays. Just because a character is self sacrificing does not make him a hero. There's a sense of chivalry and nobility, in my opinion atleast, that comes along with the idea of being a hero I just don't associate heroism with just selflessness, because there's much much more.

I suppose we just have different opinions of what it means to be a hero. I think anyone with their heart in the right place and the correct amount of courage can be a hero, and that was definitely Ryoutarou to me.

Ryotaro felt senseless, and well clueless for the most part. A goody two shoes who was just willing to do things for people. That to me doesn't make him a hero.

How does that not make him a hero? He went through a lot of personal sacrifice to try and be a hero, maybe not as much as others, but he certainly would have done that if he had been given the chance. The point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't take a lot to be a hero, but many people never truly believe that because they're told heroes are well, exactly what you think a hero is. They're romanticism far too much for their own good to realize that, yes, this is effing cliche, anyone can be a hero.

Shinji was similar to Ryotaro in the beginning. Shinji was naive and wanted to save people for the sake of peace. But he started to grow, something Ryotaro never did, he started to question himself and started to struggle in his quest to be a hero.

Shinji always annoyed me for some reason, sure he grew, but it was pretty much rendered pointless by that worthless ending. Ryoutarou certainly did grow, he learned to work with others and realized that everyone was able to make their own choices and allowed the Taros to make their own sacrifices to fight alongside with him.

I mean these are tv shows, they are for entertainment value. I want to see heroes fall and have conflicts with themselves. Shinji worked will because he learned the horrors of being a hero but in the end he accomplished want he set out to do. He became a Rider when he saw a little girl lose her mother and he died saving a mother and daughter.

Again, Den-O was a very different type of Rider, it did have its share of drama, but it wouldn't go as deep as other series, and I feel that's why people unfairly criticize it. In the final episode, Ryoutarou threw himself off a building with the Death Imagin just to make sure he could take him with him, that's bravery and total personal sacrifice, sure he didn't die, but he was fully ready to.

What did Ryotaro do? Whine alot to Yuuto. Cry when the Momo and the others began disappearing for the 6th time again. It was just poor scripting and acting for the most part. I did not like the Ryotaro character at all. I just don't label characters who do perform these so called "heroic deeds" to be heroes. They need a reason behind it, a driving force and a will to save people for the greater good of things.

Ryoutarou went as far as taking his cards, he was willing to continue fighting on his own and willing to actually train to make himself strong, despite the fact out of suit he was probably the weakest guy ever. Yes, he cried, but that was within his character, he was forced to go through a massive change and couldn't properly handle it all the time, but he still did what he thought would make others happy, to me that's his reason right there for being a hero.

To me it just seems like you're willing to overlook Ryoutarou's deeds for whatever reason. Sure, he may not have ever died, but he certainly wouldn't have thought twice about it if Ryoutarou believe he could save someone's life. That's a hero to me.

 

[Adrienzo]

Well I guess it just boils down to the matter of opinion.

I still disagree with what you said and what you added to your arguement.

Koji Seto is not years behind Takeru Sato. His 20 seconds of Momo is practically on the same level as Takeru's.

And like most people mentioned, we all have different definitions of being a hero.

 

[Black Fang]

If you liken saving the world, saving lives, saving humanity to helping with home work... Well there is little I can say to enlighten you on this further.

I don't. But you essentially did with your outlandish reasoning.

Well, I am a fan of Den-O, and I see it unfairly criticized it far too much.

Black RX and Gingaman are unfairly criticized. Den-O has been grotesquely overrated for two years now. And I say this as someone who ultimately liked Den-O. Don't be ridiculous.