Kamen Rider Kabuto - Talk Up! [Fansub Spoilers!!!]

[Aoi Kurenai]

In the mean time I've TheBee who serves as a antogonist against Kabuto, so I'm more than set.

That's just it though, he's not. He should have been, but he isn't. In two or three episodes he was taken from a nice likeable rider to someone who'd make Kusaka wet his pants. And even then he wasn't a threat to Tendou. Going back to something someone said before, it looks like he wins all his fights too easy. No matter what the point of the current fight is, Kabuto can just rider kick the enemy and they're out. It wouldn't even matter if the fight just started, a rider kick and their out of it.

'Til then tho, Kabuto thoroughly satisfies and has me cheering for cool quick moments like seeing TheBee snap his fist up and then Kabuto to block it right at the end of an episode.

That was a great setup and that fight was great. What I had wanted from TheBee coming in was someone that Tendou wouldn't be sure against. Someone that'd give Tendou a run for his money or at least make him question whether he'll win or not, but even that hasn't happened. And now with

Spoiler

Kagami as TheBee, I doubt it will.

Kabuto rocks. I don't understand how anyone can trash it. Ok,maybe I can if your one of those people want every thing to be like the old days and wont accept any thing different

That's just not true at all. Tell me, what's different about Kabuto that we haven't seen in the past? We like different, but different isn't what we're getting, not different good at least. For most people that stopped around Agito. I'll even go as far as to say that it was the perfect series. After that, it was copied too much and it just didn't work out a lot. From Ryuki to Blade I only felt that one of those endings was good and that was Blade. I don't like an ending that undose everything or a non ending like Faiz had. Blade at least gave us better closure than we had gotten in the past.

 

[Momotaros]

That's just it though, he's not. He should have been, but he isn't. In two or three episodes he was taken from a nice likeable rider to someone who'd make Kusaka wet his pants. And even then he wasn't a threat to Tendou. Going back to something someone said before, it looks like he wins all his fights too easy. No matter what the point of the current fight is, Kabuto can just rider kick the enemy and they're out. It wouldn't even matter if the fight just started, a rider kick and their out of it.

That was a great setup and that fight was great. What I had wanted from TheBee coming in was someone that Tendou wouldn't be sure against. Someone that'd give Tendou a run for his money or at least make him question whether he'll win or not, but even that hasn't happened. And now with

Spoiler

Kagami as TheBee, I doubt it will.

That's just not true at all. Tell me, what's different about Kabuto that we haven't seen in the past? We like different, but different isn't what we're getting, not different good at least. For most people that stopped around Agito. I'll even go as far as to say that it was the perfect series. After that, it was copied too much and it just didn't work out a lot. From Ryuki to Blade I only felt that one of those endings was good and that was Blade. I don't like an ending that undose everything or a non ending like Faiz had. Blade at least gave us better closure than we had gotten in the past.

You know what I say to you haters. If you don't like it watch something else and let us who do like it. Enjoy it in peace. Stop trying to press your guys view points on us. We like the show,why can't you guys accept that and move on. You want agito. Then watch Agito. Nobody forcing your hand and telling you to watch it.

 

[Barom 1]

Kabuto rocks. I don't understand how anyone can trash it. Ok,maybe I can if your one of those people want every thing to be like the old days and wont accept any thing different,but if you are like some of us who watch each Kamen Rider series as it own show you will have no problem. I seen Agito to Kabuto. The only series I didn't like was Hibiki,but I love the rest. I think some of these people are bitter that new fans don't like the crappy old time suits and shows. In other words thier bitter that we don't have the same taste as them.

Assuming someone doesn't like it just because it's new while at the same time lambasting something old as being crappy just shows you choose the "everything old sucks, everything new rocks" path and makes you guilty of what you are accusing others of.

Is it wrong that some people have different expectations for entertainment then others? Marginalizing those that have a differing opinion does not make their opinion any less valid, a fact all too often seemingly lost on the interent.

Ask yourself this, would you keep reading a book if 1/4 of the way into it there hasn't been any development of a plot?

 

[Momotaros]

Assuming someone doesn't like it just because it's new while at the same time lambasting something old as being crappy just shows you choose the "everything old sucks, everything new rocks" path and makes you guilty of what you are accusing others of.

Is it wrong that some people have different expectations for entertainment then others? Marginalizing those that have a differing opinion does not make their opinion any less valid, a fact all too often seemingly lost on the interent.

Ask yourself this, would you keep reading a book if 1/4 of the way into it there hasn't been any development of a plot?

First off you don't know me then,because I love old shows. I just don't compare new shows to old ones and expect it to be the same. You guys want everything status quo. To never change a thing. It doesn't work that way. Things change that how life works. You say thier no plot,but that your opinion. It not shared by everyone here. Thirdly,I never said you can't have an opinion,but at the same time you shouldn't be trying to force your opinion on to others.

 

[Aoi Kurenai]

You know what I say to you haters. If you don't like it watch something else and let us who do like it. Enjoy it in peace. Stop trying to press your guys view points on us. We like the show,why can't you guys accept that and move on. You want agito. Then watch Agito. Nobody forcing your hand and telling you to watch it.

"Hater" That's nice. I'm giving my opinion on the subject at hand, I never said people had to go by it. Let people like whatever they want, I don't care, I'm not the type that says "Let people like whatever shitfest they wanna watch", that annoys me to no end so I don't do it myself. I don't care what people do or don't like. I'm just giving my opinions on the show so far. I'll keep watching Kabuto simply because it's a Kamen Rider series and I don't like dropping series. I'm not saying you can't watch and enjoy Kabuto so stop putting words in my mouth. I'm only saying what I think about the series and it's plots and characters, I haven't bashed or flamed anyone while doing so. My dislike for Kabuto isn't based on any comparison, it's based on the show's faults and weaknesses that I see.

 

[Keith Justice]

People are just in awe of the crappy bells and whistles, angst and poor attempt at seriousness.

This is about as true as, "People just hate the show because they're so caught up in their snobbery and older shows that they don't want other people to enjoy the shows they have."

Why do people who don't like a show have to try so hard to try and ruin it for others and try to convince them the show they enjoy is crap and that if they like it; it's because you're not smart enough?

Statements like the above are... bothersome.

 

[Momotaros]

"Hater" That's nice. I'm giving my opinion on the subject at hand, I never said people had to go by it. Let people like whatever they want, I don't care, I'm not the type that says "Let people like whatever shitfest they wanna watch", that annoys me to no end so I don't do it myself. I don't care what people do or don't like. I'm just giving my opinions on the show so far. I'll keep watching Kabuto simply because it's a Kamen Rider series and I don't like dropping series. I'm not saying you can't watch and enjoy Kabuto so stop putting words in my mouth. I'm only saying what I think about the series and it's plots and characters, I haven't bashed or flamed anyone while doing so. My dislike for Kabuto isn't based on any comparison, it's based on the show's faults and weaknesses that I see.

You might have not,but your buddies above you have. I seen thier threads trashing us new fans. Saying if we don't watch the old shows were not true fans and such. I seen them going on these threads tell us new fans that some how where less important, because we don't all like the old shows. I watch Agito to Kabuto. Also I have tried to watch Kuuga and Kamen Rider Black I found them to be very boring. Does that make less of a fan then you ,no. But to them it does, because I don't worhship the old material.

 

[Momotaros]

This is about as true as, "People just hate the show because they're so caught up in their snobbery and older shows that they don't want other people to enjoy the shows they have."

Why do people who don't like a show have to try so hard to try and ruin it for others and try to convince them the show they enjoy is crap and that if they like it; it's because you're not smart enough?

Statements like the above are... bothersome.

Thank you! That all I'm saying....

 

[Keith Justice]

That's just it though, he's not. He should have been, but he isn't. In two or three episodes he was taken from a nice likeable rider to someone who'd make Kusaka wet his pants. And even then he wasn't a threat to Tendou.

For myself that's not a problem. It's not like I'm hiring the guy for a job or need to hang out with him often. Yeah, I liked him a lot at first too, but that he can shift shows another dimension to him.

Unfortuantely I can just hear the hardcores shouting, "That's not 'dimensions'... that's just bad writing... ahahahahahahahaaha!!!"

To which I shrug off with a shudder. I don't know how it'll play out, maybe disappointingly, but as it is I enjoy it. I use my own imagination to wonder why TheBee does what he does. Doing that is fun for me.

Going back to something someone said before, it looks like he wins all his fights too easy. No matter what the point of the current fight is, Kabuto can just rider kick the enemy and they're out. It wouldn't even matter if the fight just started, a rider kick and their out of it.

Meh.. the fights are alright. I dig the feeling I get when the music plays and he points toward heaven. But basically all Tokusatsu near feels like this. When the final attack comes it's almost like they could have just done that from the beginning. I've heard that complaint since Voltron.

For myself, it's all that leads up to that that makes it worth it.

That was a great setup and that fight was great. What I had wanted from TheBee coming in was someone that Tendou wouldn't be sure against. Someone that'd give Tendou a run for his money or at least make him question whether he'll win or not, but even that hasn't happened.

Agreed. I've only seen to Episode 8, so I don't know how it'll play out. No argument that it'd be cool to see Tendou doubt himself more, but I like it to happen rarely. Seems to mean more then, like seeing Tendou lose a cooking match.

That's just not true at all. Tell me, what's different about Kabuto that we haven't seen in the past? We like different, but different isn't what we're getting, not different good at least. For most people that stopped around Agito. I'll even go as far as to say that it was the perfect series. After that, it was copied too much and it just didn't work out a lot. From Ryuki to Blade I only felt that one of those endings was good and that was Blade. I don't like an ending that undose everything or a non ending like Faiz had. Blade at least gave us better closure than we had gotten in the past.

No argument there. Only thing Kabuto has for me that's different is hope... hope for something new and great. So far the road to the heaven has been a fun one for myself.

 

[Keith Justice]

"Hater" That's nice. I'm giving my opinion on the subject at hand, I never said people had to go by it. Let people like whatever they want, I don't care, I'm not the type that says "Let people like whatever shitfest they wanna watch", that annoys me to no end so I don't do it myself. I don't care what people do or don't like. I'm just giving my opinions on the show so far. I'll keep watching Kabuto simply because it's a Kamen Rider series and I don't like dropping series. I'm not saying you can't watch and enjoy Kabuto so stop putting words in my mouth. I'm only saying what I think about the series and it's plots and characters, I haven't bashed or flamed anyone while doing so. My dislike for Kabuto isn't based on any comparison, it's based on the show's faults and weaknesses that I see.

Yeah, you say it well. I know people think I wanna shut opinions up or something and that's not true. What I'm just saying is that some people just try to hard to push their opinions to the point of insulting others or to hinder the enjoyment somebody might be having.

I mean, I could do the same in the wrestling threads, but why waste the energy and why would I want them not to enjoy their stuff with my cratchity old opinions on how "bad and fake" the acting is in Professional Wrestling?