Kamen Rider Gaim - News/Rumors Thread 2: Suffering Incoming

[RougeRider03]

It definitely makes sense now for how things will turn out, Here's my figuring of the situation: Mitchy finds out a partnership is being formed between Kota and his brother, and he can't have that asshole Kota befriend his brother. So he ambushes his brother to take his Genesis Driver (or sneakily steals it) and attacks Kota to attempt to create tension between them once more. Ultimately, Kota defeats the fake Zangetsu, takes his Melon Energy Lockseed, then realizes it's Mitchy. Cliffhanger.

That definitely seems like a possibility, and I hope that's what will happen. If that's how Kouta obtains the Melon Energy Lockseed, then he can use Jinba Melon and learn that Micchy is a backstabber. I don't think that they would kill off Takatora like this, I'm pretty sure that Takatora is seen injured near Roshuo, and isn't being attacked.

 

[Scissors]

Maybe Takatora could become an Overlord?

From the very beginning, he has been talking about how you must sacrifice something in order to save humnaity.
Wouldn't it be very in-character for him to sacrifice his own humanity and seek the power of the Overlords, so that he could control the plants?

If Takatora has to die, then this would be the best exit for him in my opinion.
A very noble and bittersweet exit.

 

[Malunis_T]

Maybe, but considering what power that would give him, it seems like an endgame plot... depending on how Overlords even work.

I just realised, it seems so obvious, but as a Genesis Driver user, Kurokage Shin doesn't have a Sonic Arrow...

Those two Riders that doesn't have the Jimber shadow are probably Genesis Riders, to fit the remaining unused colours for the belt. Judging by the scans I'm guessing Matsubokkuri Energy will use the white 'Liquid' sound for normal lockseeds, so at least no pinecone soda for anyone.

Good catch with the colors. The Liquid thing makes a lot of sense considering I think the colors you pointed out were green and purple? Those could be applied to these mystery guys.

As for the lack of Sonic Arrow, a proposed explanation: Sonic Arrows might be the weapon assigned to the forms, which is why Gaim gets one for each of the Jinba forms. Since Kurokage-Shin is the leader of the Troopers it sort of makes sense to assign a special spear to him. instead.

 

[Kamen Rider ShinkenRed]

I think Takatora would like for it to be possible to not have to sacrifice all those lives, and i suspect this will be why he allies with Kouta. If they can get the Overlord's power and stop Hellheim invading, no-one else has to die.

 

[Actar]

Oh man, I can't wait to see what Kiwami Arms looks like. Each design in Gaim has been phenomenal and my expectations are through the roof.

(Yeah, I'm building up myself for disappointment, aren't I?)

 

[NeonZ]

Those two Riders that doesn't have the Jimber shadow are probably Genesis Riders, to fit the remaining unused colours for the belt. Judging by the scans I'm guessing Matsubokkuri Energy will use the white 'Liquid' sound for normal lockseeds, so at least no pinecone soda for anyone.

Their shadows are symmetrical though, and their shoulder connectors seem to be very similar to Jimba's. Still, considering how Kurokage Shin didn't have a new armor at all, they basically can have any belts in this movie apparently.

 

[Malunis_T]

I would argue they look more like Melon Arms than Jinba, especially in how the shoulders look. The triangular shape at the chest definitely isn't Jinba styled either, I almost wanted to say it's the same as Melon Arms' chest but I can't find any of the placeholder art used early on for comparison (since proportions in the art differ slightly from suit proportions). Still, the shape of the shoulder armor is unmistakably Zangetsu-y

 

[NeonZ]

I would argue they look more like Melon Arms than Jinba, especially in how the shoulders look. The triangular shape at the chest definitely isn't Jinba styled either, I almost wanted to say it's the same as Melon Arms' chest but I can't find any of the placeholder art used early on for comparison (since proportions in the art differ slightly from suit proportions). Still, the shape of the shoulder armor is unmistakably Zangetsu-y

This is the closest thing to toyguide art of Zangetsu, a CG model:

The other picture in the toyguide seems to be a picture of the live action suit.

Anyway, addressing your points... Regarding the chest, I hadn't actually thought about them being triangular. The way I'm looking at it, the risen "pointy" bits are like the ones on the back of Jimba Arms. The ones in the actual suit get to around that level, although the shape is different. Zangetsu's front armor has a different shape and goes lower than that.

http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/gaimu/rider/gaim_top.html
http://www.tv-asahi.co.jp/gaimu/rider/

They seem way too high to be in front without just looking silly too. The back just seems like it'd make more sense.

For the shoulders, I guess they'd be a similar concept to Zangetsu's (opening up with a pointy part upwards), but I don't think the mold matches either Zangetsu's CG or the live action suit. Rather than that, the first part seems to match the one in the Jimba-like silhouette there perfectly, while the second closed side is replaced by the Zangetsu-like open spike, which doesn't seem shaped like Zangetsu's anyway, so it's likely a new piece made for the movie Riders.

Also, like mentioned before, their helmets all seem to have Gaim's "wings", and one of them even Gaim's visor. They're probably all based on Jimba Gaim's suit but with modifications. The similarities to Zangetsu is just a similar idea for the shoulder piece "opening". Of course, they're silhouettes at this point, so I could be wrong, especially now that you've raised that doubt regarding the pointy bits that I had immediately assumed were actually on their back. Still, I don't think the Zangetsu idea makes sense. If the Arms aren't modified Jimba ones, they're likely original, although the base suit used still seems to be Gaim's anyway.

 

[Ryuutaros]

It looks like the silhouettes have the same upper armour as well? The only difference is the helmet.

Well, movie Riders are always recycling stuff anyway haha.

 

[Savior Den-o]

Well, some rumors that were posted on /m/ a while back was Yuuya having a Sengoku Driver and transforming into a green Gaim. That's probably what the green silhouette is. One of the other rumors was a new Lockseed based on Dragonfruit, but that was way back before the Genesis Riders.