Jetman vs Abaranger = Inoue vs Arakawa

er; Magiranger, Gekiranger and Goseiger had a big focus on villains, and the first two had pretty interesting villains (notably Wolzard, Meemy and Long).

Magiranger is an interesting case. Its head writer is Atsushi Maekawa, who has a very short tenure writing tokusatsu, instead doing the bulk of her work in animation. She only writes for Hurricanger and Abaranger prior to getting the head writer's seat for Magiranger. While Magiranger is definitely influenced by Abaranger to some extent, I think we'd all agree that Abaranger featured unusually strong and effective villain characters for an Arakawa show.

Most notably, I think, is that Magiranger would've been in preproduction while Dekaranger was airing. At that point it would be less clear that the show was going to be quite so huge, and it wouldn't be in a position to influence Magiranger quite so much. I think you really see the effects of Dekaranger's popularity really begin to influence Sentai writing once you hit Boukenger. Magiranger is, perhaps coincidentally, Maekawa's last tousatsu credit.

Gekiranger and Goseiger are both headed by Michiko Yokote, another writer who came to Sentai from a background primarily in animation writing. Yokote's specialization was shoujo, and her most influential work prior to Gekiranger was probably the surreal magical girl series Princess Tutu. The villain of Princess Tutu, Raven, is an all-knowing master planner type, more or less exactly like Long or Bladerun. Long is the archetype funneled through the shounen martial arts kitsch that Gekiranger references extensively, while Bladerun is an attempt at a more "Hollywood" take on the type, since Goseiger is about referencing films. The referencing thing is also a very distinct Yokote writing tic, as each episode of Princess Tutu references a different ballet.

Prior to getting the head writer's chair on Gekiranger, Yokote did very little work in tokusatsu. She did episode writing for Moero!! Robocon, Dekaranger, and Magiranger. She doesn't seem to have been particularly influenced by the approach to any of these works, as her style in Gekiranger and Goseiger is not substantially different from her style in earlier works like Princess Tutu. At this point, it's worth bringing up that both Gekiranger and Goseiger were perceived as underperformers for various reasons. In Gekiranger's case, a common complaint from Japanese viewers was the villains getting too much camera time!

I think part of Dekaranger's legacy was creating a viewership for Sentai that simply does not want shows about strong villains. They want strong heroes whose victory over the villain will never be in serious doubt, which makes it borderline impossible to write guys like Radiguet or the Alien Hunters anymore. Writers still come to the franchise from outside the tokusatsu writing pool who want to do that, because Sentai shares a lot in common with other Japanese MotW writing formats, and in anime you can still write those formats and include strong villains.

In Sentai, though? Well, look at Go-Busters. That show is desperately trying to do strong villains, making both Enter and Escape fairly active and effective. They're not the best villains in franchise terms, but the show's clearly putting effort into having them do things regularly. The result? The most poorly-rated show in the franchise's history, and specifically poorly-rated with Sentai's target demographic of children. Kids actually preferred it when Gokaiger was steamrolling the Zangyack and Doukoku spent most of the series on his ass swilling sake. Tastes have changed, and I really think the shift begins with Dekaranger's popularity.

Besides, Junki Takegami is one of the biggest influences of post-Carranger sentai series, being the head writer of Megaranger, GogoV, Gaoranger and Go-onger; his influence on sentai is at least as important as Arakawa in modern sentai.

Megaranger was a Takatera show, and I feel Takatera's ideas are by far the dominant ones in that story. Gaoranger is fairly influential on later Sentai in merchandising respects, but its story always struck me as self-consciously bland and derivative. Go-onger feels much the same to me, a show afraid to have any idea that might be even slightly upsetting to someone.

I'll give you Go Go V as an example of Takegami doing very good work, though. I don't think it was influential work, because Go Go V re-examines the basic premises of Sentai in a way that later shows simply do not ever revisit. Sadly, I think Takegami realized at some point that a lot of the work he was doing in Go Go V was simply too smart for his own good, because what he does with Gaoranger and Go-onger seems intentionally dumbed down and simplified.
 
In Sentai, though? Well, look at Go-Busters. That show is desperately trying to do strong villains, making both Enter and Escape fairly active and effective. They're not the best villains in franchise terms, but the show's clearly putting effort into having them do things regularly. The result? The most poorly-rated show in the franchise's history, and specifically poorly-rated with Sentai's target demographic of children. Kids actually preferred it when Gokaiger was steamrolling the Zangyack and Doukoku spent most of the series on his ass swilling sake. Tastes have changed, and I really think the shift begins with Dekaranger's popularity.

Disagree; Shinkenger had Juuzo, and in a lesser extent Dayu who were pretty active villains. Besides, is Doukoku that less active than other Big Bads in sentai, like Bias, Hinelar, Ragorn, Zeba, Ra Deus and Lee Keflen, or Captain Zahab of Gingaman? As a Big Bad, it's only natural Doukoku doesn't do a lot until the end. And Arakawa did create Basco, who was always active in his episodes, and certainly the reason why we have Enter and Escape in Go-Busters. And frankly, Go-Busters is an almost completely static show so far (except toy wise); Enter is not THAT active (in half of his episodes, he merely creates the Metaroid and the Megazord), and since her appearance, Escape only appears in one out of two episodes (and she's an obvious Juuzo expy, but more light hearted) ; almost all the episodes feel like fillers; the only long running plot (Enter stealing plans to make a new Megazord) had a completely anticlimactic resolution.
I don't think the link is obvious between active villains and poor ratings in sentai (Magi and Shinken prove it)
 
and since her appearance, Escape only appears in one out of two episodes (and she's an obvious Juuzo expy

Eh, she's not that much like Juuzo; she at least acknowledges there are other colors on the team besides Red. :laugh:

Its head writer is Atsushi Maekawa, who has a very short tenure writing tokusatsu, instead doing the bulk of her work in animation.

.......I'll be honest, I never knew Maekawa was a girl until now.
 
I don't think the link is obvious between active villains and poor ratings in sentai (Magi and Shinken prove it)

Magi I don't think is any sort of counter-argument, because it's a pre-Bouken show. Sentai's serious ratings decline doesn't begin until Boukenger, which right out of the gate drops something like three points from Magiranger. I also think it's a bit much to call Magi a recent show, as it was produced well over five years ago at this point.

Shinkenger... I'll be honest, I simply cannot agree that any of Shinkenger's villains are really active. Dayu doesn't do anything of significance in the show but die to give Doukoku a power-up, and Juuzou gets into all of three or so major fights. They spend a lot of time simply wandering around with the camera pointing at them.

As for Doukoku, the problem with him is that he spends most of his camera time not actually doing anything of substance. Other "big bads" tended to at least be giving orders to their subordinates, making their long-term goals clear, or otherwise stirring the pot. With Doukoku, there's not even the illusion that he's all that invested in what the MotWs are doing.

Setting that disagreement aside, I'm not sure you can really argue from Shinkenger's ratings to prove anything. Shinkenger's ratings differ from Goseiger and Gokaiger's by only one-tenth of a point. I recall hearing that Shinkenger did better on home video than other recent Sentai, but I doubt that had anything to do with its villains.

Maekawa's a guy. (You can see a picture of him here: http://prnews.jp/view/1249/)

And I always thought it was weird how he just vanished from Sentai after Magiranger.

I had no idea Atsushi could be a male name. You learn something new every day! That guy writes some surprisingly good shoujo.

Maekawa seems to return to writing anime after Magiranger, for whatever reason. Major credits include the first three Bakugan anime series, Sisters of Wellber, Fresh Pretty Cure, a run of Detective Conan starting in 2011, and the new Hunter x Hunter anime.

Incidentally, though I use "she" to refer to Michiko Yokote, I am reasonably sure Yokote's not actually a she. Or even a single person; I believe last I heard Yokote is a writing team of three guys who like to collaborate? Michiko is a female name as far as I know, though, so typing "she" feels appropriate.
 
Magi I don't think is any sort of counter-argument, because it's a pre-Bouken show. Sentai's serious ratings decline doesn't begin until Boukenger, which right out of the gate drops something like three points from Magiranger. I also think it's a bit much to call Magi a recent show, as it was produced well over five years ago at this point.
Boukenger had 6.7 % ratings; 1 point less of Magi, but not that different from Aba, Deka and a little higher than GogoV; those ratings are in the lower ranger of the ratings seen during the Mega/Bouken era, but not THAT low; the ratings drop really begins with Geki, which is at 5.2 %. Btw, with four different villain groups, Bouken gave them a pretty good focus (of course, Bouken's villains are uneven, quality wise, but they aren't at all sidelined)

Setting that disagreement aside, I'm not sure you can really argue from Shinkenger's ratings to prove anything. Shinkenger's ratings differ from Goseiger and Gokaiger's by only one-tenth of a point. I recall hearing that Shinkenger did better on home video than other recent Sentai, but I doubt that had anything to do with its villains.
Shinkenger's ratings (5.9) are half a point higher than Goseiger (5.4), and almost one point higher than Gokaiger(5.0) and Go-onger (5.1). But I agree with you : I don't think Shinkenger's success has much to do with its villains, lol


Incidentally, though I use "she" to refer to Michiko Yokote, I am reasonably sure Yokote's not actually a she. Or even a single person; I believe last I heard Yokote is a writing team of three guys who like to collaborate? Michiko is a female name as far as I know, though, so typing "she" feels appropriate.

Yokote is a "they", but they are an all female writing team
 
Incidentally, though I use "she" to refer to Michiko Yokote, I am reasonably sure Yokote's not actually a she. Or even a single person; I believe last I heard Yokote is a writing team of three guys who like to collaborate? Michiko is a female name as far as I know, though, so typing "she" feels appropriate.
That's right. It's three women, one does the plots, one who does the dialog, and one who blends it all together.
 
But I agree with you : I don't think Shinkenger's success has much to do with its villains, lol

Just to clarify, I was discussing ratings numbers with Kids demographic only, not the total population averages. I think for Sentai, the total population numbers make audience trends much less clear.

Yokote is a "they", but they are an all female writing team

Good to know!
 
While on the subject of head writers, do any of you think any of the other writers fall under the "big idea" style of Inoue or the "process" style of Arakawa? Like Uehara, Soda, Fujii, Sugimura, Urasawa, or Kobayashi? I'm not sure if chief producers can fit into these classifications, but if they can, then how about guys like Suzuki, Takatera, Hikasa, and Utsunomiya?
 

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