I'm sooo mad at Warner Bros (Warner Bros confirms Superman Reboot)

[Rainboy]

Man, just when it seemed that they were actually gonna go forward with MOS (according to what Routh has been saying recently) they pull this crap out of their ass. I am slowly losing respect for WB (it began with the whole JL movie fiasco which shouldn't have even began until we get more individual hero movies made) And some people complained that SR was too dark and moody for a Supes film, but now they want to do that for the reboot...? I just don't understand their point of view on why this would work better than a Singer helmed sequel with more action (which apparently is all the idiots of the world need to go see a movie, unfortunately...) I hope this fails big time.

 

[PriestTimeTraVelX]

Ya know, I'd love a dark superman movie, as long as it has a Justice Lords style plot, with some heavy Superman v Superman action.

 

[MattComix]

And similarly, Batman is not the end-all-be-all of superheroes.

Thank you! ..and neither is friggin Wolverine!

I agree to this 100%. Frank Miller seems to hate Superman, always portraying him as an invincible authority figure (a super-powered "The Man"), with Batman representing freedom and rebellion, and being able to beat up Superman with his bare hands. No thanks. :rolleyes2:

I'm sick of seeing a facist Superman. That's what too many hack writers/artists love to do these days, to portray Superman as The (Super) Man (just because he represents "The American Way," when Superman should represent all mankind). I'm all against it.

And Miller should just stick to his own original work.

I agree there. If Miller wants to creates worlds full of nothing but cynicism and whores in his own work I've got no problem with that. Go right ahead. I'm not reading it, but go ahead. Basically he should stay in Sin City and keep the hell out of Metropolis and Gotham.

When it comes to Superman I think Millers work shows nothing but total contempt for the character. But I don't think he gets Batman either. Or superheroes in general. Or The Spirit for that matter...

 

[Skinwalker]

Superman sucks until he's angry. He is too uptight, conservative and clean. At least in Trinity he's loosening up a bit with Wonder Woman and Batman's traits.

 

[Rainboy]

Superman sucks until he's angry. He is too uptight, conservative and clean. At least in Trinity he's loosening up a bit with Wonder Woman and Batman's traits.

Ugh, that book is horrible and should not be used as an example for Supes. Action Comics is freakin' awesome right now and getting great reviews to boot, would be a nice story to adapt for MOS (with a few tweaks) if Singer was still attached....I wonder who they plan on using for the villian in this reboot now...

 

[Poweranimals]

For sure, I won't even watch and support the movie.

Yeah right. You'll watch it.

While I don't really favor this idea (A reboot this soon is ridiculous), attaching Superman Returns to vague continuity of an out of date movie franchise really wasn't a great move. My main problem is that I think Singer has learned from his mistakes and would've made a great sequel. I just can't help but feel starting from scratch now isn't going really erase Superman Returns, but make things feel cluttered. I like continuity in my movie franchises.

 

[Ragna "D" BloodEdge]

I agree there. If Miller wants to creates worlds full of nothing but cynicism and whores in his own work I've got no problem with that. Go right ahead. I'm not reading it, but go ahead. Basically he should stay in Sin City and keep the hell out of Metropolis and Gotham.

Hear, hear. With TDK being such a success now, film execs have this skewed perspective that darkness in superheroics is the only way to go, when the truth of the matter is they haven't, aren't and will never be mutually exclusive. In fact if you think about it, the two words are contradictions.

I mean seriously...think about it. Dark? Superheroics? Anyone think that feels fundamentally wrong on some level?:sly:

 

[Artic_Rival]

What the **** is with reboots all of a sudden. As soon as they make a movie, they decide to make a reboot. This reboot bullshit is getting too far. If you needed to do a reboot, DON'T REBOOT SOMETHING YOU REBOOTED TO BEGIN WITH!

 

[MattComix]

Hear, hear. With TDK being such a success now, film execs have this skewed perspective that darkness in superheroics is the only way to go, when the truth of the matter is they haven't, aren't and will never be mutually exclusive. In fact if you think about it, the two words are contradictions.

I mean seriously...think about it. Dark? Superheroics? Anyone think that feels fundamentally wrong on some level?:sly:

Indeed. What is even more frustrating is the sense of deja vu. A work of close to the same name was extremely successful and skewed the perspective of both Marvel and DC, comics in general and they've been to mildly varying degrees locked into to that to this very day. Granted DKR was not alone in this. Watchmen also casts a long (and in my opinion highly-overrated) shadow as well.

Now I do want to quantify this a little, or at least I feel the need to. Because it seems like to me that whenever any discussion is started about this people assume that those debating against darkness are merely wanting the Silver Age back or something. There's nothing wrong with a superhero story where there is a moodier atmosphere and a sense of danger and dread.
..but there are levels that go into and beyond overkill but even more importantly, it shouldn't be a requirement for the genre and the characters as a whole. Darkness and quality are not the same thing!

 

[Rainboy]

There's nothing wrong with a superhero story where there is a moodier atmosphere and a sense of danger and dread.
..but there are levels that go into and beyond overkill but even more importantly, it shouldn't be a requirement for the genre and the characters as a whole. Darkness and quality are not the same thing!

Exactly. The first two X-films are a great example of this balance. I think Singer does a great job of having that light heartedness as well as a sense of danger and impending doom that the characters must face. I actually felt like TDK was perhaps too dark and too serious. BB was a perfect level for the character, but for me anyways, the sequel took it a bit too far.

These are, at the end of the day, still comic book movies. They are supposed to be FUN for crying out loud. I'm all for a serious tone, as long as it doesn't overshadow the comic book feel of it all. I fear that with the success of TDK that future comic book films are going to follow suit and in essence stray too far from the source material and leave the eccentric "cartoony" heroics by the wayside.