Illegal Immigrants In America

Holy ****, this thread has an overabundance of really long posts that don't actually say anything.
 
That was random, uncalled for, and highly offensive to immigrants and Canadians. This thread used to be about open discussion. What happened to that?
But it's the truth. If someone does that in Canada do you honestly think that the Canadian government is going to allow them to stay just because? Of course not. That's what his point was. We're the ONLY country in the world that allows illegal immigration to continue AND open our pocket books in the process. "Oh you have no job, medical, money, home? That's okay, we'll give you welfare to sponge off regardless if you're here illegally but if you're BORN here don't ask for help as there is none for you."

What's sad is that the US government will help other countries from around the world, it will support illegals through welfare but it will not help it's own people (look at Katrina, look at the California wildfires, look at the floods in WA). Part of the problem with illegal immigration is the fact that the people in office refuse to do a damn thing about it OTHER then to point fingers at each other. "Oh it's the Democrats fault" "Oh it's the Republicans fault" when in actuality it's BOTH parties fault.

cAlso yes, the numbers are all bullshit cause they are all estimates at best. Because there is no census question as to status of citizenship, so you may know how many Hispanic's people are living in an area but any guess as to the legality of them being in the country is speculation.
Really huh? So actual statistics from a school district is bullshit?

A 2006 school report shows that as of October 2006 there were 12,516 students in that district. Of those students 8,641 were Hispanic or Latin. That's actually a little over 69% of the total enrollment in the school district. Those numbers are right off the school district's website. The high school itself had a 66.7% Hispanic/Latino population. Four elementaries (out of 11) had over 90% Hispanic/Latino population, one was at 89%, two at over 75% and three were under 45% (those three happen to be in the newer area). Of the four middle schools, one had a Hispanic population of over 90% while the remaining three ranged between 58.8% and 89.6%. These numbers are straight from the school district's own website. They are, by law, required to take ACCURATE head counts of students in order to obtain state funding.

The other numbers came from media reports done by the local newspaper including one report done by a local media station that stated the city itself has a population of over 67% Hispanic. The claim to have obtain their numbers from the Census and other reports.

Again the primary Hispanic in that town IS Mexican. THAT is a FACT in my area. We don't have many (if any) Cubans or Puerto Ricans up herein MY AREA. We do get some immigrants (both legal and illegal) from other Middle and South America countries but the majority of (illegals) immigrants that make up the Hispanic community happens to come from Mexico. This is also backed up by the fact many of the businesses that have opened up in that downtown have the Mexican flag displayed (no American flag or the Mexican flag over the American) OR they have the name of Michoacán in their business name.

x1xBladex1x, you're right. Immigration should not be easy in ANY country. It's EXTREMELY difficult to move and remain in Japan, Mexico, Germany, France and Russia. In Russia even the Russians have to have papers from the government to get a job or go to school. That means even if you're 100% Russian, born in Russia but move away and come back you're NOT going to be able to get a job or go to school until the government says so. In Mexico, even if you become a citizen you can NEVER vote or own property. The United States probably has the easiest immigration policy among non-third world countries.

ILLEGAL immigration is not about racism at all. Nor is being angry over taxpayers money (from property taxes, income taxes, etc, etc) paying for those who enter the country illegally and using the welfare system to fund their way of life. Racism has nothing to do with ILLEGAL immigration.
 
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Really huh? So actual statistics from a school district is bullshit?


Being again ILLEGAL immigration is not about racism at all. Nor is being angry over taxpayers money (from property taxes, income taxes, etc, etc) paying for those who enter the country illegally and using the welfare system to fund their way of life. Racism has nothing to do with ILLEGAL immigration.

Qft, but I think you ment "being against".

& For the first part, people will argue with anything. <_<
 
That was random, uncalled for, and highly offensive to immigrants and Canadians. This thread used to be about open discussion. What happened to that?
Just replace every 'canadian' and 'canada' with 'america' and 'american', that sounds better?

I wasn't offending Canadians in that post, if you think I was then, well it's your fault for seeing it in such the context.
 
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Qft, but I think you ment "being against".

& For the first part, people will argue with anything. <_<

lol -- I had edited it out since I was arguing with the kids at the same time I was typing. lol It's very hard to type one thing out at the same time trying to tell the kids to clean up their projects from the kitchen.
 
long winded useless post


ALL that is is CENSUS INFO THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY OF THE HISPANICS IS OR ISN'T ILLEGAL. THERE IS NO WAY TO DETERMINE HOW MANY OF THE MILLIONS OF HISPANICS IN THE COUNTRY ARE LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. Saying how many people are Hispanic in an area doesn't say **** and come's off sounding racist.

Maybe it will sink into your head if its in fucking capital letters. or maybe i should bold it too.

For the third fucking time. WHY is it only HISPANIC immigrants that are brought up when the topic of illegal immigration. Not European, Russian, Asian or Canadian. No its always Mexican or other Hispanic countries. Illegal immigrant classification is not limited only to Hispanics.
 
ALL that is is CENSUS INFO THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MANY OF THE HISPANICS IS OR ISN'T ILLEGAL. THERE IS NO WAY TO DETERMINE HOW MANY OF THE MILLIONS OF HISPANICS IN THE COUNTRY ARE LEGAL OR ILLEGAL. Saying how many people are Hispanic in an area doesn't say **** and come's off sounding racist.

Maybe it will sink into your head if its in fucking capital letters. or maybe i should bold it too.

For the third fucking time. WHY is it only HISPANIC immigrants that are brought up when the topic of illegal immigration. Not European, Russian, Asian or Canadian. No its always Mexican or other Hispanic countries. Illegal immigrant classification is not limited only to Hispanics.

Considering I'm HISPANIC really sounds stupid if you're trying to imply I'm racist against Hispanics. I'm against ILLEGAL immigration and the majority of illegals in my area are MEXICAN not Russian, not French, not Greek or anything else. My area does not have a high Asian, African-American/black, Indian or Middle Eastern communities to begin with and is primarily Caucasian or Hispanic.

Secondly, no where did I imply that this was NATION WIDE. I have clearly stated numerous time that it is in MY area that has a high ILLEGAL immigration problem and that the majority of Hispanics in my area are MEXICAN.
 
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Considering I'm HISPANIC really sounds stupid if you're trying to imply I'm racist against Hispanics. I'm against ILLEGAL immigration and the majority of illegals in my area are MEXICAN not Russian, not French, not Greek or anything else. My area does not have a high Asian, African-American/black, Indian or Middle Eastern communities to begin with and is primarily Caucasian or Hispanic.

Secondly, no where did I imply that this was NATION WIDE. I have clearly stated numerous time that it is in MY area that has a high ILLEGAL immigration problem and that the majority of Hispanics in my area are MEXICAN.

You being or not being Hispanic doesn't change how your words appear on the internet nor what they imply. even if your Hispanic or Mexican you can still be racist towards them being one doesn't mean you cant hate others. there are plenty of natural born Mexicans that hold Immigrant Mexicans to be beneath them on the sole fact that the were born int the us. I am not saying that you are one of them, just using it as an example of that I mean.

and For the last time

CENSUS REPORTS ONLY SAY HOW MANY OF A PARTICULAR RACE ARE LIVING IN AN AREA.
THEY DO NOT SPECIFY OR INCLUDE THE LEGALITY OF THAT PERSONS RESIDENCY IN THE US
. I guess I did need to bold it

If you live in a predominantly Hispanic neighborhood then NO **** there will be a large majority of Hispanics in the schools. Same goes for White, Black, Asian and so on.
 

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