Algo Fonix
Actually back this time
I've seen some pretty janked up designs where they basically leave the wiring and whatnot only covered by the foam inside the helmet. Personally, I don't like that sort of design...
From stunts to sculpts
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Algo Fonix
Actually back this time
Maybe by the time you get it up, I'll have the stuff to get started. XD
Bueno
Banned
Here's what you need to do then:
Go out and buy Oil-based clay, a manakin head (Since I'm guessing that you're gonna start with Gills' helmet), and a basic sculpting kit. They should be at your local crafts stores or hardware stores. If ya wanna make the helmet, ya gotta get the confidence to get off your ass and buy those bricks of clay. That was the hardest step for me, but I don't regret it one bit. After buyin' everythin' ya need, welcome to the wonderful world of Toku suit making.
Oh yeah, here's your reference.
Knead the clay to make sure there's no air-bubbles and make it softer/warmer. Make square slabs out of the clay and slap em' all over the manakin head (like this) until ya have somethin' that resembles a helmet. I'd say one layer for the chin and jaw area and one for the actual cranium. Make two bubbles for the eyes and carve them to the same shape in your reference. The antenae might be a little tricky but just keep at em' until they look right to you. And don't worry if ya mess up. It's clay. You can easily smooth out somethin' with your finger or add some clay to fill in crevases or cracks.
The rest of the armor itself probably wouldn't be too hard to sculpt since the shape doesn't have to be perfect. Gills' armor is somewhat organic looking and more like a creature so it's not like the shoulder pads or chest armor has to be perfectly defined. Besides, you can sand off and smooth the armor once you've casted it.
The beautiful thing about oil-based clay is that it won't dry out as long as you preserve it correctly, allowing you to easily correct any mistakes you've made, touch up, or detail at any time for as long as you want. So each time you finish up your sculpt, be sure to carefully wrap it in up with a garbage bag or plastic bag and store it somewhere at room temperature.
Trust me, once you start, you don't wanna stop. It's that much fun. And you totally feel like taking your time doin' it cause it slowly starts to turn out the way you want it the more that you work on it. Last week I told myself that I was gonna just sculpt for 3 hours, but by the time I was done it was already 6 hours later.
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Mikazuki
Banned
Again, I don't sculpt but frankly any clay won't dry out so long as you cover it properly. When I use to work on very large pottery pieces that would take me weeks to work on, I simply kept it covered with a plastic bag and kept a wet cloth at the bottom of the bag (not touching the piece I was working on). Never had a problem.
The best place I found to buy clay is at Seattle Pottery but shipping is killer.
The best place I found to buy clay is at Seattle Pottery but shipping is killer.
To add my two cent, if you want a good support for those if you have problems keeping it up * hehehe* try to take some wiring, bend it to the basic shape of said antennae, insert said antennae mock up into the sculpture and work with those while building up the shape using the wires as support.
If you want to spend some extra time getting the antennae to look a certain way you might have some problems if the rest of the sculpture is in the way, making it hard to reach certain areas. You can take some brass tubing * can be purchased from any hobby store * put it in the sculpture and have a way to remove the antennae away from the rest of the helmet easily.
If anyone is lost, I can perhaps do some basic drawings to show what I mean.
Also might make the molding process a bit easier if you can separate the antennae from the rest of the helmet. Add them back in after making the cast and all. :buttrock:
Nice to see you FINALLY working on something Bueno, I remember the good old days when you talk and talk about it.
I'm also getting into it too but I decided to start off small first before tackling anything big. My first projects are Gatack's double caliber and move on to the Kakuranger helmet seeing how they are a rather simple design and move on to Orga. Seeing how I NEVER seen a Orga helmet.
We should trade helmets after we're done!
But yes to add to this good man's advice, try to perhaps start off small and work your way up. Don't expect to get anything right the first time and as he said, TAKE YOUR TIME!
You guys don't wanna be like my friend, he's attempting an Iron man costume.... :sweat:
Anyway Bueno, there's stuff in the mail for you. I think you'll enjoy them and I'm sorry for the BELATED response.
Bueno
Banned
And so you FINALLY show yourself from the shadows eh? And I see you finally sent the stuff too...or did you?:eyebrow:
Anyways, thanks either way. Are ya gonna sculpt the Double Calibers from scratch? Build off of the toy? Make a mold and cast of the toy and building off of that or just make a mold of the toy and bootleg it?
And so you FINALLY show yourself from the shadows eh? And I see you finally sent the stuff too...or did you?:eyebrow:
Anyways, thanks either way. Are ya gonna sculpt the Double Calibers from scratch? Build off of the toy? Make a mold and cast of the toy and building off of that or just make a mold of the toy and bootleg it?
Yeah no problem. I really am sorry for taking a long time to send these out but on the other hand I'm sending you the whole set of it rather than one. I need to get some good cd packaging for it which I can probably find at crystal mall or something and send it on the friday.
Express post though so you should get it next week or even the weekend if japan sends out mail on the weekend.
Much debate on myself to decide if I wanted to sculpt them from scratch or not and I decided yes. I want to get a feel for the general work flow of sculpting, molding and then casting. Better for me to start off small and get the principles down.
Only real reason why I didn't want to use the toy is the scale issue. I'd probably have to rebuild the most of the toy anyway. :sweat:
But yea I am mostly going through the process of getting supplies together. I got about 20 lbs of clay from last month which should be good. I just need to tools and a work table for my room and I'm good to go for the sculpting phase.
I am also getting molding supplies together from a local shop here so I can do a head cast of myself. Should be a fun and messy time.
Later bro
Bueno
Banned
It better. Or else I'm gonna...:shakefist
Where from? Granville island? I heard that the store across from the art school (God, I haven't been there forever...I already forgot the name) is a gold mine for stuff, but it all costs an arm and a leg.
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