From stunts to sculpts

Well, from the little I know about helmet making, you have to start off with a clay model FIRST. Then you start sheet metal casting, then you make the fiberglass mold.

So no, you don't wear the clay model. It's just a base.
 
Well, from the little I know about helmet making, you have to start off with a clay model FIRST. Then you start sheet metal casting, then you make the fiberglass mold.

So no, you don't wear the clay model. It's just a base.

So where does the part you can wear come from?? *Obviously knows nothing about this.*
 
Well, if it's made from clay... I wouldn't want to try and wear it. :P

I was under the impression that we knew they helmets would be for display. If later on I decide I want to learn about how to make the fiberglass helmets... well... that's too far off to think about now.
 
Like I said, I know very little. But from what I understand (**** my homies have told me briefly), after you have your mold, you put fiberglass in the mold and let it set. Which is why you make a mold in the first place. :P I've never done it before so I can't give you a step by step tut.

You know, after looking through Bueno's links, I found this that's actually clearing a lot up for me (I have never made a helmet but I have a few friends who do).

http://www.bioweapons.com/HelmetCast01.htm

That should help explain things.

Although, I still want to see Bueno's tut.
 
Actually the Faiz helmet sounds like a good idea. I was trying to think of a Kamen Rider helmet I'd like to do and completely forgot about any of the post-Black series. >.<

I'd also considered maybe maybe a MegaRed or TimeRed one... but upon closer inspection... those may prove to be too difficult.

I've actually got most of the sculpting tools you have listed.
I need to get out and buy some clay though.

I think that Faiz and the older ones would definately be easier to do since there isn't really much major detailing you need to do. Also, when you make your final cast in plastic, fiberglass or whatever you're gonna ake the helmet out of, you can just sand it off to make is as round as you need to be.

On another note, although monsters and organic creatures LOOK more difficult to work on, they're actually easier since you don't have to worry about making a perfect round shape or straight shape like with Sentai or Kamen Rider helmets. A mask like the Crocodile Orphenoch for example would take a long time to do, but you don't have to worry about each tooth being perfectly straight though.

Okay, I decided I'm gonna round up all the info and some pics and make a tutorial out of this since a lot of people are showin' interest.

And as a bonus...

HOW TO MAKE A HELMET MOLD: HALO 3 VERSION!!!
 
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That's a good point. I'd venture to guess that any of the monsters wouldn't normally be done, because all you hear about are people wanting actual Rider/Ranger/Hero stuff.

Just a question: Do you think that Polymer Clay would work? I have a bunch of bricks of it laying around already. I mean, I'm gonna buy some oil-based clay either way, but I'm just wondering if the polymer would be suitable or not.

I'm actually pretty excited that I've set my mind on this... thank you so much, Bueno, for sparking my interest. ^_^
 
That's a good point. I'd venture to guess that any of the monsters wouldn't normally be done, because all you hear about are people wanting actual Rider/Ranger/Hero stuff.

I was thinkin' that once I cast the helmet, I'll try makin' a monster next. Probably an Orphenoch. Although the Centipede Orphenoch looks challenging, he just looks so damn cool.

Just a question: Do you think that Polymer Clay would work? I have a bunch of bricks of it laying around already. I mean, I'm gonna buy some oil-based clay either way, but I'm just wondering if the polymer would be suitable or not.

Here's a FAQ on Polymer Clay. I've never used it before, but it looks like it doesn't harden as well. My guess is that it's probably as good as Oil-Based clay. Try some of it out first and experiement. If it doesn't work out for you, go Oil-based. Either clay doesn't cost much anyway. JUST BE SURE TO KNEAD IT FIRST TO MAKE IT SOFT!!!

Also, buy a manakin head. The one that I used was styrofoam and only cost me 4 bucks.

I'm actually pretty excited that I've set my mind on this... thank you so much, Bueno, for sparking my interest. ^_^

No problem. I actually found a site that might help ya get started. http://www.monstermakers.com/

As for reference pics, here's the Kamen Rider Design Digest from 1971-2003. Can seem to find a Sentai one though. More books here. Even stuff like Terebi Kun can help with reference pics.

Have ya decided on who you're starting with?
 
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No problem. I actually found a site that might help ya get started. http://www.monstermakers.com/

As for reference pics, here's the Kamen Rider Design Digest from 1971-2003. Can seem to find a Sentai one though. More books here. Even stuff like Terebi Kun can help with reference pics.
Sweet, I'll check em out after class in the morning.
Have ya decided on who you're starting with?
Not 100% yet. I'm liking the Faiz idea, but I'm still considering maybe doing a Sentai one. I'd like to do a MegaRed, but the holographic sort of part on the top worries me. I'm wondering if maybe one of the older sentai helms would be easier to sculpt. I see the GoGo V helmets would rely more upon painting skills than anything else... Right now, I'm gonna say Faiz is what I'll end up doing.
 
I see the GoGo V helmets would rely more upon painting skills than anything else... Right now, I'm gonna say Faiz is what I'll end up doing.

The GoGo V helmets probably would be the same difficulty sculpting as the Faiz one. Probably a little easier I'd say. Either GoGo V or Faiz would be sanded off when you cast the helmet, making it easier to make smooth. But in terms of painting, GoGo V looks less tedious whereas Faiz has a few more colors to work with and in different areas. Both are good choices though for your first sculpt.

I wanna try to stay away from doing the more common choice helmets cause model4hobby on eBay already sells helmets like Kamen Rider, Zyuranger, Space Sheriff, and even Ryukendo sometimes. With LED lighting nonetheless. I gotta find out how to add LED someday too...:169:
 
I gotta find out how to add LED someday too...:169:
I suspect that during the sculpting process that inside the helmet the LED lights are added to it to create a chamber of sorts. I can't think of how to describe it other then to call it a chamber. You put the LED lights in, create a backplate with more clay and fit over the chamber to hold the lights. Once the clay is dry you remove the pieces and remove the LED lights to continue working on the helmet. The pieces should then fit without the LED lights like puzzle pieces. It sort of reminds me of how a toy's battery chamber and those damn tiny screws and the plate cover.
 

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